Hallelujah.
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How about that intro music? Very dramatic. Like a movie soundtrack there. Welcome everybody. This is the On
Patterson podcast with Mike Minelli and Anthony San Flippo riding shotgun today
and we're going to talk Eagles. because there's a lot of issues on the table right now. Two major issues and a third
one popped up today with the the news of Jaylen Carter getting surgical
procedures on not one but two shoulders. Yeah. Talk about that in a little bit. But the
two major issues that everybody's been talking about this week and we'll be talking about it for for a really long
time unless this offensive curator has a big game on Monday night. But that could this be the collapse of 2023 all over
again and secondly Kevin Patulo the problem with Kevin Patulo uh is our
second issue. So let's take the first one first. We saw the collapse a couple years ago where they couldn't get out of
their own way. started off 10 and one and all of a sudden they lose and boom it started a a domino effect on them
losing games that they should never have lost culminating in a lackluster feeble playoff effort against the Tampa Bay
Buccaneers. So are you first of all are you feeling that kind of vibe right now with the Philadelphia Eagles 2023 vibe?
You know we talked about this two weeks ago our last episode. Obviously we didn't do one last week because of Thanksgiving. So that's why we're back
this week. But um and I said I didn't think it was 2023. I felt it was
somewhere in between 23 and 24. That's kind of where I felt this team was. And
then they went out and lost to Dallas. And then they went out and lost to the Bears. And now the offense looks even worse than I thought it was. And it's
hard to not think it's 2023 all over again. Mike, it really is because if it was in between before those last two
games, which was the last time we talked about this, did it go anywhere closer to 2024 since then? No, it went closer to
2023 since then. And that's why it's got to be a concern. And and and I'm going to I'll give you an opinion in a little
bit about Kevin Patulo because I don't think he's very good at his job, but I also don't think he's the prime target
here. I think that there's multiple people that could be blamed for what's going on with the Eagles, but it's it's
a mess. It's a total mess. And I'm not sure even if they go out and have a good game Monday night against a depleted
Chargers team who've got a lot of injuries of their own. And then you look at they got the Raiders and the and the
Commanders twice. Like, does that make you feel better if they're playing well against those teams? I'm not sure it
does. Well, the peril here's how we'll know. is 2023 they lose to one of those lousy
teams. They lose to the Raiders or one of their command which I don't believe they will. I I don't want to take the
devil's advocate role here but I I know in the NFL and they're they're obviously
they're 500 losing four to four and four is their record in their last eight. Um
I I they're a good team. They're a good defensive team. They didn't look like a good defensive team against the Bears.
The Bears bullied them. The Giants bullied them. Now, when you when you look at both those teams, you go, "The
Eagles are better than both the Bears and the Giants." They weren't on that particular day. I believe in the NFL
bio- rhythms have a have a a large part. You're either ready to play or you're not ready to play. And against the
Bears, they weren't ready to play. Now, that goes to coaching you who's they're supposed to get those guys ready to play
every week. But pro players are weird. Sometimes they feel 100% bio-ythm wise
and other times they're they slack off and go we can win this game without playing our best and they get the caught
with their pants down and this is the kind of thing that happens. I don't believe this is 2023.
You're you're feeling more of a vibe that this could be a collapse than I am. It's getting there like like it's moved
closer to that. I'm not 100% in its 2023 mode. Like I don't look at this Eagles team and say they're not going to win a
playoff game. Like I I I still think that they are one of the three to four best teams in the NFC and so they're
likely going to get a matchup that favors them in the first round and so I think they can win a game in the playoffs. So in that regard, it's got to
be better than 2023. But has it moved closer to 2023 than where it was two
weeks ago when we last talked about this? Yes. And it's hard to say otherwise. All right, let's look at the
offense because everybody in is getting blamed. Kevin Bulo more than anybody,
but the fact of the matter is everybody should get take a blame here, but let's talk about the Bulo situation. Um, he
has not been adequate enough. Now, I don't know the intricacies of what they try to do or what they don't try to do
depending on their personnel. We hear that Jaylen Herz does not like to run design runs. So, they don't call design
runs. They don't call the RPOS as much as they used to do. Now, my answer to that is tough love. I I know it doesn't
work that way with pro players because you can lose them if you use tough love. But I'm going, if you don't want to run
a running play, which helps our whole offense, then you better get better at throwing the ball in the middle of the
field, which he's not. No, 100%. And and look, I don't need
them the coaches to be like super, you know, hard asses about it, right? And
say, you know, shut up, Jaylen. just run the ball, get in line, right? You know, don't do any of that. Like, you don't
need that. But if you sit there and say, "Okay, maybe we used to say, Jaylen, we used to run you um 12 times a game. Now
you're running three times a game. Can we push it to six or seven? Can you're going to ask him, can we push
it to six? Can we push it to six or seven?" Yeah. Like, can we get Maybe that's the middle ground.
You just got to call the play. Yeah. No, you should call. You just got to call the play. But what
if what if he changes it? But what if he changes it on you? He could change it. If he changes it, that is complete insubordination.
Well, how do you deal with that when you're paying the guy almost $50 million a year? You can't. That would be a problem. But
that would be great for us, wouldn't it? For for for people like us who doing a
podcast or sports talk radio. That would be fire, that kind of a subject. Uh, all right. So, on the subject of Pulo, there
were a couple of things that were suggested this week that he kind of wrote off. I don't know why he would
write it off. It seems to be a decent enough solution. Let's go to our old buddy Nick Fos. All right. All of a
sudden, Nick Fos comes out of the woodwork and he's got an opinion on this whole thing and he had a suggestion on
where Kevin Pulo should be at this particular time. Here it is. Here's Nick Fos.
All right. Kevin Patulo. I was looking at his history and this is you know there might be some minor changes but from what I picked up was being a
passing game coordinator. His role was to be in the box to be in the booth to oversee what is happening on the field
from a up above perspective not being on the sidelines with the players and feeling the emotion from the sidelines.
He was in a controlled environment to see coverages, to see plays, to make recommendations in the passing game in
his career in Philadelphia up to this year. When he was hired from within to be the offensive coordinator, he then
and I I I agree with his standpoint and what he made what he said. He said, "I want to be on the sideline where I can
speak to Jaylen Herz and speak to the offense and they can see me face to face and have that interpersonal
communication." I love that. I love that before the season. I think that makes a lot of sense. I think that's what the
players were used to and it's always nice having your coach on the silent talk but at this point something needs
to happen and I don't think Kevin needs to be fired. So I think the answer right now is little micro changes to make guys
um more comfortable in their position. So I think Kevin Pulo's first thing needs go from get out get out of the
sideline get away from what's going on the emotions because that could be clouding your vision with play calling.
You have a different perspective from the sideline. You can't see the coverages as they're forming. You can't see the defensive alignments very well.
You can see it on the tablet afterwards and sort of make predictions, but when you're up in the box, you can see it as
the drive is going on, what they're trying to do, and you can see the concepts forming more clearly. And that
is what you have been trained in since 2021 to sit in the box. It's all he's ever done, right?
It's all he's ever done. So, my answer to the Eagles. So, when I'm looking at this, I'm like, okay, a simple
adjustment is put him up in the box and bring someone from the box down, have
and the quarterback should only be talking to the head coach and maybe his quarterback coach and the OC. That is
it. All right. First of all, he he was wrong because Kevin Pulo admitted that he's
never been in a box. So, so Nick didn't do enough research before he said that. But what he said, I think, makes a lot
of sense. I don't think any coordinator should be on the sidelines. I think the coordinator is a little fan show. You
can oversee the whole process by being in that booth. I think that's the best spot for him.
A thousand%. But like what does what? So here's my take on it, Mike. What's Nicki's role in all this? Right. So Nick
Serriani's got to be on the sideline. So he could be the guy that has the interpersonal communication with the
quarterback and and anybody on the offense, right? Let him be that guy. That's his job. He's the head coach of
the team. He has no other responsibility. He's the CEO, right? We That's what he does. So then put Patulo
upstairs. Maybe you have a better way of maybe he could see it better that way. Look, it can't go wrong. It can't get
worse than what it is if he's up there, right? That makes a lot of sense. Smart guy, Nick Fos.
Yeah, it's pretty grim right now what their offense is. So, and so let me throw this at you. when uh uh the head
coach has been kind of an offensive coordinator who's called plays before and is reluctant to call to take the
chart again when things are struggling. What does that say about the head coach? We we just saw Dan Campbell do it, you
know, several games ago, right? Yeah. Well, hasn't been very successful for him either.
You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, this is my team, but the best thing for the team is now
maybe I should call plays now. Well, yeah. I mean, I think so too, Mike. I mean, look,
the the the best option is not available till after the season. Okay. So, that
would be a different guy altogether, a different offensive coordinator, maybe one with some some experience. So, what
is the best option right now? And the best option right now is something different than what you've been doing.
It doesn't necessarily mean it's going to work, but it's the best option is to do something. when you continue to do
the same thing repeatedly like that. That's what's the frustration for
everybody is, right? Yeah. They've got to open up the playbook somehow. I I I mean, they keep
running the same offtackle plays with Saquon. Uh to to me, you got to change it up a little bit. Maybe they do those
kind of those stretch plays, those stretch handoffs where some lanes open up for them a little better. I don't
know. But they they've got to do something different. And you know those RPOs, you remember those RPOS's? Yeah. Yeah. Most unstoppable play was that RPO slant
pass to AJ. It was like a regular feature for them every week. They don't use the RPOS's
anymore. Well, because the quarterback won't because the quarterback won't run. So, you you're taking that option out of the
mix. He's got he's got a pass option out of it, right? He doesn't want to run it. I get it. He can also hand it off. It's
like you're sticking it in the belly of a guy. You got three options. You either pull it out of his belly, you run
yourself, or you throw a pass. But you're throwing off the defense. They don't know what's going on. It's a great way to utilize Jaylen Herz.
I agree. But I also think that their their design on these plays aren't
always nuanced enough. And by that like the example was look at what Ben Johnson was
doing with the Bears. He was moving guys in motion, tight ends and receivers in motion all day and having them pick up
blocks like in the, you know, in the middle of the line to create to create gaps for those two running backs to to
run through to get 281 yards off of the Eagles. So, if the Eagles did something
similar, if they had some creative blocking schemes that incorporated your tight ends, that incorporated your wide
receivers, that might be able that might be what they could do to get Saquon going. And once the running game gets
going, that's when Jaylen Hurst is a better quarterback. Totally get it. Let's let's hear from Kevin Patulo. Um, in regards to him
maybe moving up to the booth. He he pretty much laid it out for people that it ain't gonna happen. So, here's Kevin
Patul. This is cut number two, Mike. Yeah, I think the communication the players is important. I've been on since
I've been here uh in 21, I've been on the field uh every every time and I think there's there's a lot of
communication with players, coaches on the field making sure adjustments are done correctly. You know, conversations
I have with Jaylen, with the O line, with the receivers that are very important. And I've been on the field for a long, long time. I don't think
I've been in the box since like maybe 2011 as a coach. Uh so it's been a while. Uh, and I think just the
relationship I have with the guys and the communication has been good and we just got to continue to improve in other areas and we'll be all right.
All right, there it is. Uh, let let's get to our text word. A lot of people
checking in on the text board here. Uh, somebody needs to be the eye in the sky, says EG
Butler. Why not the OC? Now here's here's pro John. Can't they
get a ring cam to go there with Vic and transmit the footage to KP's tablet so
he gets a birdeye view of the field? I love it. I love this creativity.
Hurts is starting to stare down receivers and uh uh and he's and he's
holding on to the ball. Uh Ford 90 65. I think the Eagles are gonna lose to S San
Diego and another it's the Los Angeles Chargers. I wish I didn't. It's such a waste of a talented roster. Uh they need
to run more with the quarterback under center. Um that's EG Butler said that one. Yeah.
Yeah, that's EG Butler. Tighten up the offensive line. Richard Tate climbs in. How many OC's does Jaylen have to have
before they get it right? All right. I get either Oh, here's the beauty. This I
you have you can't go more than three days without this name being mentioned. either bring in Frank Reich
or ha or have him become the next PSU coach. Talk more about that Penn State
situation in a little bit which is kind of disgraceful at this point. But let me bring up Pulo as far as the egg throwing
thing goes. First of all, yeah, that's I I think it's abhorent and this is what makes Philadelphia bad in the eyes of
people in a story like this. They throw eggs. Just as an aside, this just for
fun and games because I don't I I I don't sanction this at all. I think these guys ought to be arrested and they
ought to be found out and they ought to be arrested for vandalism. U there is a movie a sports movie
that kind of reflects that same kind of thing. Do you know what it is? One of the most underrated sports movies that I
know totally entertaining sports movie where the coach of the team gets that
kind of treatment. I'll I'll lay it out to the people. first one on the text board to get it right. I'll give you my
admiration. I can't give you a prize because our budget here is, you know,
whatever. I'm trying to think I'm talking about. No, no. I might need I might need
another clue. It's a football movie. Football movie. Yes.
Underrated. I can't I can't And it is set in Western Pennsylvania.
Wow. That's the only hint I could give you. Otherwise, I would give it away. I'm I'm now you got me thinking, Mike. I
don't know. By the way, our producer today's name is Mike Warren. Of course, we know Mike Warren started in that great series way back in the day, Hill Street Blues. So,
yes, I remember Hill Street. It's been a far comedown for Mike Warren now. He's producing on our show. He's gone from
Hill Street Blues to producing the uh on on podcast. Yeah. Mike McNala.
Yeah. Geez. Um, I have to think about see if see see if anybody in the in the chat. Somebody will get it because I've
mentioned it before is one of my favorite words. Hey, there's a good there's a good comment though on in the chat, Mike, that I want to ask you your thoughts on
this. Um, IRock Philly says, "The sad thing is is it Herz is starting to sound like
McNab when he started to turn bad." Yeah. What do you think about that? Do you
think that we're kind of getting a Donovan McNabish version now of Jaylen Herz? We get we get the same version of
Jaylen Herz, you know. It's like what what is it? I can't really differentiate. He's he sounds the same
to me every week. So I you know I don't know is that McNab Mc McNab McNab was
insecure in his comments. You he was always insecure. He was always defending himself. I don't know if Herz is going
that far. Is he? I I don't think he's always defending himself. No. But I do think that he's
like you go week to week, you start to get a little bit more out of him. A little bit more because he doesn't want
to say I think he's savvy enough to know that he doesn't want to say the same thing every week,
right? Yeah. That's the only thing I think that there's a little bit of that says the same thing every week. He just
puts in different phrasiology. The same words come out all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Could be.
All right. Um, did you watch Hard Knocks? I told you guys I was not going
to, but then I figured we were going to be talking about it on the show, so I had no choice but to watch it, so I did.
Okay. And uh, what did you think? I think it was underwhelming. And the
reason it was underwhelming, Mike, is it's they don't you can't go deep enough when you're doing a one-hour episode on
four different teams. And that that's the problem with it. So it so there wasn't much in there that
like we didn't know we don't already talk about you know it's it's all Nick and his in his meetings and his you know
rahrah stuff and he's having a good chat with Brandon Graham at practice one day like okay great yeah things are going to
turn around it's going to be awesome and then um you know but the one thing I guess the one interesting thing was
related to Jaylen Herz and that he's on the sideline talking in two different
instances from the Chicago game. the one where he's not uh he misses Devonte
Smith on that wide open. We're gonna we're gonna let you hear we're let the people hear that. Yeah. And then and then he also took
responsibility for making a stupid decision on the tush push when he fumbled. I guess the way the way he
turned his body and how he was holding the football. But I mean like that was like the only thing that you got like
okay there's a little Jaylen on the sideline taking accountability that we probably hadn't heard before. Aside from
that, it was boring. Yeah. Well, he's always boring. That's why like it's hard for me to even listen
to him anymore. When he when he talks, I go, "Uh, we're not going to get anything out of this anyway."
All right. Anyway, before we handle that that quote with him and Devonte Smith
talking about miscommunications on the past, Kevin Pulo discussed the egg incident um vandalism incident in his
home. So, and we do have a correct answer. So, I'm gonna tie this in here. Kevin Pulo had to say about the
vandalism incident in his home. This is cut number one. Mike, you know, at this point, right, we're ready to focus in winning the game. Um,
you know, unfortunately, it happened. You know, I've been here for for 5 years now, and it's been awesome. I mean, this
is such a unique place to coach and play. It's very special. We we've been
to, you know, two NFC Championship games. We've won at Lincoln Financial, a Super Bowl. The parade is just it's an
amazing atmosphere to be a coach and a player. And as coaches and players, we all know that part of our job is to
handle criticism. And so it's perfectly acceptable to sit up here and talk about what's going on, how to fix it, what
we're going to do going forward. And we know that. But when it involves your family, obviously crosses the line. And
so that happened. And at this point, you know, we just got to move on. We're trying to win. That's all we want to do is focus. You know, whether it's my
family, whether it's the team, all we're trying to do together is is focus on this week. We've got a long week, which
has been good to have an extra day of preparation and go out to LA and beat the Chargers. Being in that chair, how have you learned to deal with the criticism that
comes with it? You know, when you first start coaching, you know, uh it's always there, right? And as you start to develop your career
and you move up and you move up and you move up, uh you got to learn from people. You know, Nick Nick does a great
job with all of us as coaches just preparing us for these kind of moments and different mentors you have. And so,
you know, you know, the pressure is there, but we all accept it because we ultimately want to be at the highest part of our coaching career and continue
to working through that. And this is part of it. Uh it's a challenge, but it makes it fun. And when you look back on it, you hope that you have more good
than bad memories. And and when you when you go through the process like this, you know, it defines you as a person uh
in your career, but not as an individual, not as your family. So, I think when you when you look at the big
picture, it's just a piece of who we all are as coaches, who I am, who my family is. Um, and and ultimately, you know,
it's fine. It's a great career that we're in. You know, we get to do something that very few people get to
do. I mean, we're one of 32. I am, Nick is, we all are. So, in the world, and when you look at it that way, uh, we're
we're very we're very fortunate and it's exciting. There's nothing better than winning a game in our stadium. There's
nothing better than going on the road winning a game in front of all these Eagle fans, you know, and so it's very unique and it's fun.
The incident, did it leave you shaken? I mean, if it was my house, then my family, I'd be scared. I'd be
angry. And I would take measures to make sure it doesn't happen again. Were you
scared? Were you angry? And have you taken measures to make sure it doesn't happen again? um you know when you talk
about what had happened I mean ultimately you know like like you said you want to be able to separate your job
from your family and you know we talked about it before I said it before you know that line was crossed and it was an
unfortunate incident and that that's the the part of it that that happened and you know us as a family we know we we
got to stick together and to be honest there's a lot of great people in the community I have great neighbors there's so many people have reached out to my
wife and I and our family and so you know it's not anything or one specific person. It it happened and we just got
to move on from it at this point. There's no you're not uncomfortable being there. You're not uncomfortable,
you know, being in that neighborhood. You're not you're not uncomfortable with sort of continuing things as they are.
I mean, no, we've had a great experience here. And that's what kind I was alluding to earlier. We've had a great experience here in Philadelphia and it's
a very special, unique place, you know, to work. And I continue I look forward to, you know, all the more games we have
and finishing strong in the season. All right. Uh yeah, it crossed the line when it involves his family. Somebody
wrote in, what is this 1989? Who eggs people's houses anymore?
1996. I didn't night on mischief. Did they stop egging houses?
Yeah. Well, that used to be a thing, right? I mean, I remember growing up in in West Philly. Eggs are nice to toss
in the 80s. It was it was a constant thing. You people threw eggs at houses. People use soap on car windows and
toilet paper yards and Yeah. Soap in the windows. That was always We're sounding like we're 100 years old now.
Kids don't do that anymore. No, they don't. They don't waste time. They don't do that anymore. All right. Richard Tate 8 was the first
guy to text in the correct answer. The movie was All the Right Moves starring none other than Tom Cruz.
Yep. As Stefon Georgovich. Very good.
And Craig T. Nelson as the coach whose house got vandalized because Craig T.
Nelson ran a running play to to run out the clock to win the game. But Vinnie
Salvuchi, the fullback, fumbled in the end zone. The other team recovered to win the game
with a touchdown. Yep. I remember the fact that you remember that specifically, Mike, that's
it's one of my favorite movies of all time. That's like Rainmanesque right there. Like the quarterback's nickname was rifleman.
The the uh Chris Penn was the middle linebacker who had a scholarship to USC
but had to give it up because he knocked up his girlfriend. You don't remember all these things?
Oh man. Oh, I do remember. I remember the movie. I haven't seen it in George got thrown off the team. He had
to work in the mill with his parents with his father. It might be 20 years since I've seen the movie. Right. But the fact that you
remember all the characters and their names and everythingational, that's tremendous. All right, in any event, let's take our
first break on the show. This is the On Patterson podcast with Mike Minnelli, Anthony San Flippo. We're back after
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cast and we haven't heard from the head coach yet. Nick Serriiani had his say on not changing offensive play callers. He
also said some things about Jaylen running more and he discussed the differences this year from 2023 which is
just covering up. But let's go with the one not changing offensive play callers. This is cut number one Nick Serriani.
Again, I do I do believe that again, I do I do believe that different
scen both of them are different scenarios. You know, I know it was a change of play color, but slightly
different particularly on the offensive side. Um and so, yeah, again, I don't it
isn't just one person. We have to it's the ultimate team game. And so, um like
I said, we're we're working through everything. Um, you know, I have a lot of faith in all the players. I have a
lot of faith in all the coaches. We just got to we got to execute it better and we got to uh scheme it better and we
gota they all can be true and we got to and we got to call it better. It's every it's every um area that we need to
improve on. That's why we always say we look internally um through all these things. And like I said to you guys,
like if all that's not jelling, that to me that's on me first. Um, and and it's
my job to do whatever I need to do to help uh get it fixed, and that's what we're working on right now. All right, there you go. It's a
collective effort. He he says the same thing all the time. It's up to him to get it corrected. It was up to you to
get it corrected. You take plays. You take You take the board in this game. And you know what? I'm going to call plays this game. You have enough
confidence in him calling plays. You know what that sounds like, Mike? What's that?
Sounds like what Richard Tate said. Gotta do a better job. Yeah, Andy Reed
sounds exactly like that, right? Let's hear one more from him on the notion of jail and running more because
this is important. Uh it's it's a double-edged sword here because you don't want the guy to get hurt. I get it. He's been pretty good at protecting
his body, but I think the RPO where he can get either hand it off or pass out of that equation is not necessarily
pinning him down that he has to run the ball on every play. So here's what Siri had to say on the notion Jaylen Herz
running a little more. We're always thinking about how to protect Jaylen and and make sure that he
is healthy for the for the long haul. Um different different plans have different
uh reasons and of why you run different things. And uh like I said, we're we'll
do everything we need to do to con, you know, to help this offense get rolling. Um Jaylen's talented and you know,
running the football. He's talented in also holding the backside, you know, when he doesn't run the football. So, a
lot of different ways to do that. Um, you know, again, um, always looking at everything and, uh, how we can improve.
All right. All right. I had enough of him. Well, you know, you know what I take out of that, Mike? I'll tell one little one little nugget I take out of that.
You got He's the way he says to keep him, we we got to protect Jaylen to be healthy for
the long haul. Well, now, while some people might look at that as, well, he's our franchise quarterback. We don't ever want him to get hurt. He's big part of
our future, etc., etc. What if he means and I'm and far beer for me to give this guy credit, but what if he means
we're going to unlock him a little bit when the games matter the most and that meaning the playoffs. So, you're not
really doing it now, but once you get into January, then we'll do it and it'll be like, ah, look
at this. It's a whole different offense than what we've shown you all year. I ask you, do you think he's alluding to?
I'm just playing devil's advocate. I don't think he's he's alluding to that. I'm just saying, what if what if he is, though?
Okay. I because I don't like I don't think the guy's a good coach. I really don't. Serving the guy for the playoffs basically is what you're saying.
Yeah. What if he's saying that? What if that's the case? All right. He's load managing the guy. Yes, that works, right?
Load management. All right. Eagles Chargers are both eight and four. And how many yards have
the Eagles surrendered in their last two games combined? Well, I know that the rushing against
the Bears at 281 was a most of my lifetime. like they hadn't given up that many since 1972. Um, so I will say
combined it would be 900 exactly 898. Okay,
you're right on a button almost with that. So there you go. All right. Now the Chargers beat the Raiders last week.
Everybody beats the Raiders. They stink stank. 3114. Herbert has a broken bone
in his left hand. He had surgery last week and apparently he's playing now. He
only had 20 passing attempts last week, which probably means he was hurt and they didn't want to risk it. So, it
looks like even in this game, the Chargers probably run the football. And last week, they ran it. Their two
running backs, Vidal and Patterson, combined for 180 yards with Vidal going for 126 on 25 carries. And the Raiders
had a pretty good run defense coming into this game. They were third in the league versus the Rush. And they got bounced a little bit by the Raiders. So,
you expect Herbert with a broken hand to follow that same path. Yeah, I think you're going to see, you know, the Bears
showed everybody how you can run on the Eagles. And then the Chargers do have the one thing that they do have coming
back off of injury is their big rookie running back, Omaran Hampton, who was uh out for several weeks. He's back this
week as well. Vidal's run the ball well for them. Um I do expect that they will try to be a run first team against the
Eagles also because the longer you keep that Eagles defense on the field, that's when they tire out, right? So, I think
that the Chargers will try to run the ball a lot against the Eagles. Yes. All right. Uh, also, uh, Herbert's been
pressured a lot. His offensive line has been subpar. Without Jaylen Carter in there, that suffers a little bit with
that inside push. Um, maybe Barkley could pick it up this week because, uh, you know, if you want to run the
football against this team, you can probably run the football against the Chargers. They're not that great against the Rush. So, again, we talk about a
team, another team not great against the Rush. Maybe this is the week that Seaquan goes nuts.
Yeah. And so the funny thing is, Mike, if you look at the Eagles are still favored in this game as poorly as
as poorly as they've played and the Chargers are a decent team, right?
Eagles Eagles line. Definitely an Eagles line. Is it is an Eagles line at minus three.
Okay. So, you feel comforted by that? I think they'll win. I actually think they're going to win. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's I think it's
close. Well, I think it's gonna be a it's gonna be a close game. Like I don't think it's I don't think it's a runaway
by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think they're scoring a lot. Yeah. I think it's like a I think it's
one of those like 2319 type games. Like that's what I think it's going to be. All right. The Washington Post Anthony,
I want to get to this in a second. Uh the Washington Post, I'm going to try to to bring up this uh this article
named the the best sports cities. And uh let me see if I can get this up. best
sports cities. Guess who wasn't on the list? Well, I'm assuming Philadelphia was not
on Philadelphia was not on the list. It included Boston, New York, Los
Angeles, and even Cleveland was in there. Seattle, Kansas City, Detroit,
Buffalo. All those cities were in there nine. And the Eagles were not. So, I ask
you, Anthony, how good of a sports city is Philadelphia? And did they get this wrong?
What the hell is the Washington Post doing? Like, how can you not call Philadelphia? I've been all over North
America, Mike, and in almost every major sports city in in the country. And the
only ones that compare to Philadelphia, the only ones are New York and Boston. Nobody else compares to Philadelphia.
And so if you if you wanted to say that they were third behind New York and Boston, I could get I could be okay with
that. But whatever. Like if you want to go that route, that's fine. But these other cities don't even come don't even
come close. They don't I think Philadelphia is ahead of New York because New York is so diluted with all those teams. I think our
concentration is heavier. We're like concentrated frozen orange juice. You know, it comes out in a lump and the
rest of it comes out in juice in New York. But uh I here's the thing. It it
goes back to the Philly taint. There is a national people think of Philadelphia
right away. They get sour. They get sour face. They go sports. Nah, they're their
fans are too tough. They do this, they do that. They're unruly. They're blah blah blah blah. It's the same taint that
people have for Penn State. We'll get to that in a second, by the way. Yeah. Well, it's interesting. It's
interesting you mention that though, Mike, because uh Grace Delpo from On Patteradisonson, she did a story that we
ran, I think it was on Thanksgiving Day that there was a study done by some company up in Canada that looked at the
most hated NFL team in each state and it was done based off of like internet
searches, like Google searches and things like that. And the Eagles were the most hated NFL team in 13 states in
the country. Uhhuh. and and even some out west that you say, "Why the hell are the Eagles the most hated team out in Oregon or
whatever?" The Eagles have started to win. And so when you win and you're from Philly, it's like, "Oh my god, not only are they
nasty, but they win." Yeah, exactly. But here here for me defines why it's such a great sports city.
Yes. When when things are rolling, the Phillies will get 43,000 a night. But
even when they're not rolling, they're going to get good crowds. Yeah. Yeah, the Flyers haven't won in how many years?
It's way too long. 59,000, right? They still they still bang out a
building every now and then. And the Sixers, as bad as they are right now, there's still enthusiasm in that ballpark. And you already know about the
Eagles and the support that they have for Eagles. So, the fact that the there they support the teams here to me
defines what a great sports city is. Absolutely. Win or lose. And the fact that the fact
that you and I are sitting here on a Thursday afternoon and we have 830
people across platforms right now watching us live on the middle of an afternoon like watching us live that you
know that goes to show just what sports means to this marketplace. Exactly. Now why does sports mean so
much to us? That's a sociological argument that you could take into the night because I don't really know the
answer for that. Maybe because I look outside, I don't see a palm tree and a coconut hanging and the weather's not
always nice, right? So may maybe that's why we take sports and go, "God, we got to have this. This is our sunshine."
Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. It's it's also it's also a fabric of of our lifestyles in
Philadelphia, whereas I think it's it's a form of entertainment in the Midwest and out west. And people are, you know,
like and EG Butler says, "Oh, Chicago is a good sports town." And it's a good sports town, but it's not Philadelphia,
right? Like they they they they're very polite in Chicago and they're nice in Chicago. The White Socks don't get supported at
all. So, no. Yeah, they don't. You're right. You're right. You gota You got to take that into consideration that it's not exactly a
baseball town. Yeah, they call the Cubbies, not the White Socks. All right, Anthony, since we already brought it up, I know you're itching to
talk about this because signing national signing day was a couple days ago. One of the teams that finished 150th
150th in in rank and they're signing is Penn State.
Why would you sign with Penn State? They don't have a head coach. The coaching search is going on forever. They still don't have a head coach. And they
flubbed the last one because they were zeroing in on the BY coach, Kehlani Satakei, and he all of a sudden turns
him down and signs a new deal with BYU saying he's going to stay there. There have been people that have suggested
maybe Mike Tomlin should get the job because his time is is worn out in
Pittsburgh. I don't know what the hell's going on, but to me it's ridiculous. And you got a story about the the Crumble
Cookie CEO is even involved in this with Yeah, he got invol he threw his money behind it to make sure that BYU would
would keep Satake there. I mean, it was hysterical that I I don't look I don't
know how Patcraft keeps his job at this point because they they just signed Patcraft to a long
deal a couple years ago. So, he's going to be there for a while. And Mike, as you as an alum, you have to
be totally perturbed by this whole thing, right?
Well, uh I I you know, once they fired Franklin, I realized that that's going to set back the program. As much as I
didn't want him there anymore, I realize it's going to set back the program years now because you got to catch up. But now
it sets back the program even more because you just missed the signing day. You didn't have a coach who could
recruit. But they they went after a lot of bigname guys and they didn't get them.
They got two. So my question is how good is the Penn State job right now that nobody wants
it? Yeah, nobody does want it. But uh and and I have a secondary aside question
off of this. If you're if you're a guy who originally committed to Penn State or was thinking about going to Penn
State and then James Franklin goes to Virginia Tech and he took I think it was
what 10 or 11 kids 11 recruits. Yeah. 11 recruits for that were going to go to Penn State are now going to
Virginia Tech. What makes you think that James Franklin is far more attractive,
playing for him and playing in the ACC than it would be to play at State
College and in a Big 10 where you get to play in like every national game ever
against Ohio State and against Michigan? Because they follow their coach and they go, "Hey, we can get in the college
football playoffs and win the ACC. It's a lot easier to win the ACC. Maybe that's a good place to go,
right? I I I guess Chase Franklin with the ultimate revenge. Takes 11 of the players.
Yeah. Takes 11 players. I And he's going to be successful down there. Here's the thing that perplexed
me. The guy at Vanderbilt didn't even take the Penn State job. Franklin was at Vanderbilt. He took the
Penn State job. This guy at Vanderbilt doesn't take the Penn State job. That's not a better job than Vanderbilt.
I know. It's it's it they they have really dropped the ball. so badly on
this, Mike. Like, you know, you have to kind of start over and I I get that, but
you could have probably started over in the sense that all right, maybe we have like two years where we're we're down
and we're not good, but if we bring the right coach in, three years from now, we're a contender again to now where
you're at is like you're probably five, six, maybe even seven years out from being a contender again in the Big 10.
That's problematic. Here's the beauty of this whole thing. The people that are listening to this show, the people that are watching us
right now, if you're not if you are not associated with Penn State, you're laughing your
ass off. There is such a Penn State taint out there, a Penn State hatred that everybody who didn't go to Penn
State or has no connection to Penn State is just loving this, Anthony. Yeah, and I admit it.
And I admit it, Mike. I'm agnostic to it. I I like to see Penn State win just because I'm a, you know, I'm I'm a
Philadelphia guy and I like Penn State, but I'm not beholden to them because I didn't go there, right? So, it's like,
okay, whatever. I just kind of have a casual uh affiliation to Penn State, but
I find this completely and utterly entertaining. And so, yes, I'm I'm one of those people. I'm one of those people who's
laughing at it. Penn State all these years has fashioned itself as the goody two shoes school.
the school where nothing goes wrong except that Sanduski scandal but it's like yeah well we're we're better than
thou and and everybody and that rubs off on everybody especially the people do you ever talk to people from Temple
about Penn State the hatred they have for Penn State oh I know yeah the people from Ruters Ruters almost
pulled off an upset last week over Penn State well that would have been a good thing that would have been a good thing for them because as
would have been as Jason So here's the thing are are they going
to turn down a ball game I as Penn State alone say you you can't possibly come
into a season where you were ranked as high as number two in the nation and a
and a favorite to get to the national championship game and lose that many games and accept some flimsy bid two
days after Christmas. Penn State pit in the in the pinstripe bowl in New York City.
Oh god. See that's embarrassing. That would be embarrassing to the program, would it
not? Yes, it would. Those guys that are going to be pro players, they got a couple that are going to be five draft picks. You think
they have any desire to play in a bowl game at this point? No. No. Not especially not that bowl
game, right? So, they're going to opt out. So, let's let's have the whole school opt out. You don't deserve to play in any
bowl game this year after the way after the expectations of this season.
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We're back on the Patterson podcast. Mike misselli Anthony San Philippo. We got some Philly stuff that we're going to hit on. stuff and the Flyers report,
but just a quick a couple of tidbits of Eagles leftovers. How did you like the prime broadcast against the Bears?
Yeah, for you. I mean, look, Brent Brent Musberger, I think he's lost his fastball.
Al Michaels, you mean? I mean, Al Michaels has lost his Al Michaels has
lost his fastball a little bit. I don't think he ever had a fast ball. He was always at that pace, that kind of same pace. think that the announcers now
have gotten more excitable and it makes him look worse. Yeah, I think I like I like the way he does the game.
Yeah, I just don't think that I mean, look, I need a little bit of excitement. I don't need the I don't I don't particularly like guys who are over the
top excite excitable for broadcasting, but I do like the people who can identify the biggest
moments and make them sound more exciting. And I don't I just don't think Al ever does that.
All right. Uh but what about Kaye Hartung? She got a with or without reference in there. Did you see that
after they they did the Angelos's cutaway? That's wonderful. I am so I am so tired
of the same old same old when you're referencing Philadelphia. You know what I'm saying? Like
find something else. Find another city. City city hall shot on Broad Street. City Hall. There's so much more. There's so much
more to it. Where you going to go? What do you want to do? I It doesn't matter. Just find something else. like you know you know what I you
know what I would be impressed with like go go to some small rinky dink South
Philly Italian restaurant right and and sit in there and talk to the people
right you'll get a go you'll get a couple goss right you'll get a couple of that whatever but show something else
right go into go into uh Manunk right or in Roxboro and and and talk to the
people there go up to northeast Philly like it's the same BS Yes. Every
freaking you in Northeast Philly. What are you taking the the old Nab the Bisco factory? Where where are you taking
them? Where in Northeast Philly? What's up there? I don't d respect the people
in northeast Philly. Don't get me wrong. But what are you going to do? Just come through the neighborhoods?
Yeah, whatever. Like go to some parish, some parish up in the great northeast.
Yeah. Ken McGun coming out of church on Sunday or whatever. bunch bunch of old ladies coming out with their candles and
there you go. That's Philly. That's what we are in reality. It's not the same.
It's the same soft pretzel cheese steak baloney every time. I got you. Uh all right. One other thing
about that game. Um they had u a picture of Boo Face. They had that guy going
early on which was perfect. Right. And then they had the Fire Kevin signs. They s all all that stuff. But for me, uh I
got to ask you this question. I know it's the holiday season. What is the big
lore of dressing up like Santa to go to a football game? But more importantly,
why would you dress as the Grinch? Yeah. Well, I guess the Grinch is just
like a character that a lot of the the the generation below mine really kind of got into.
I mean, I know it came out when I was younger, but the Grinch. I know. I know. And look, the Santa thing, it's the same guy.
The most pessimistic character on the face of the earth. You go to an Eagles game is the Grinch.
I I agree, Mike. I don't I don't get it. I don't get a lot of what fans do. I don't get a lot of what fans are into. I
was having this discussion yesterday with with some people. I was like like, you know, we do some great articles on
Patterson and they do all the the traffic is great on the site, but you know what does the best the stories that tell you what the
team's wearing that week and this and and who the announcers are for that week. Yeah. Like why do people care so much about
that? The highlights of a broadcast, you know, who write that stuff. Yeah. It's interesting.
I I I don't I don't I don't understand it. I just don't. Let's move on to the Phillies winter
meetings. You're going to be down there in Orlando. Yeah, even Sunday morning. Padding the O on Patterson expense
report. Yeah, man. I don't have that expense report yet.
Yeah, heard there was a heard there was a little bit of issue with the name. Any
event, what are you expecting to have happen down there? And do you believe the signing of Schwarber is imminent,
whether it's the Phillies or other teams? Yeah, I do. I I think that before we go on the air next week, so by next
Thursday when we do this podcast again, Kyle Schwarber will be signed with somebody, whether it's the Phillies, who
I believe it's the Phillies. Um, but I but it it will be uh uh them or the Reds
or, you know, Reds. No, the Reds are me.
It's his hometown team, right? Well, here's the thing. My this I said this yesterday to Tim Kelly, our Phillies our
Phillies guy. I said,"Tim," I said, "the teams that you that they're we're hearing that are interested in Schwarber
are the Reds, which are his hometown team, the Red Sox, who he played for before. He's got a relationship with
Alex Kora, and the Mets, who are the Phillies biggest rival." To me, that smells like his agents putting those
teams out there because those are the teams the Phillies cannot let him go to, and they want to get the Phillies to
spend more. I think it's gamesmanship in all honesty. Okay. You believe at the end of the day it'll be the Phillies?
I do. I I've And if I'm wrong, Mike, I'll wear the egg on my face, but I'm
pretty confident he's going to be back with the Phillies. Coming back from the winter meetings,
who will uh not be with the team in your estimation?
I don't know if it'll be coming back from the winter meetings, but I do think that one of Bow Sto or Marsh and
probably in that order of preference for the Phillies to move on from I think it
would one of those guys will be gone at least at some point here this month. Okay. All right. Let's talk about the
Sixers. In the ultimate irony, this is great.
The Phil Jalan be plays once a month. In the ultimate irony, the the Sixers were
fined $100,000 for him playing.
For him playing, they got fined. Now, explain that to the people. Well, how could that be?
They screwed up the the injury report. They announced him as out, right? And
so, why does this matter? Um, this matters because everybody's in bed with
the gambling operations, right? And so a lot of times betting lines are are determined by who's playing and who's
not playing. And so when the Sixers announce that Joel Joel Embiid is out,
of course the betting line is going to change to be against the Sixers, right?
Then he goes and plays in the game. Well, the NBA thinks that that's misleading information. That's
deceitful. And so therefore, and it obviously it affects the gambling of on
the on the sport. And so the Sixers, they get fined $100,000 for for screwing
around like that. It affects the gambling on the sport. Meanwhile, they've got they've got players betting on games and that's
cousin and others. You can't you can't make this stuff up. But but yeah, it's interesting that the
way Tyrese Maxi is playing. I I did not see him as a 30 to 40 point scorer per game
and he could actually lead the league in scoring, which is phenomenal. He I never thought he'd be Iverson, but he's
Iverson the way he can score the basketball. Yeah. And he's been tremendous. He's the the only thing that that you could
really look at from the Sixers this year and be completely thrilled with. I know there's been, you know, spurts for VJ
and Edgecom, especially early in the year. Um like you kind of got excited about him, but that's that's a lot.
That's really it. Maxi is but he's a star. He's a superstar. He's going to be in the All-Star. He's going to be the
six represent in the All-Star game. He's excellent. And Mike, you looked this up and it's interesting because I
think it's it it was a special year when if you explain it.
Has a team ever had the leading scoreer and in the NBA and missed the playoffs?
All right. Now, missing the playoffs, does that include the playin games? No, because you're not in the playoffs.
Okay. Um, no. Uh I I can't remember who the la the last guy might be Pete
Maravic if you go way back in time but yeah the last guy to actually do it at a playing game and lose was Steph Curry
and that was in 2020. Yeah, which was the co Yeah. Co year, right? So that I don't know. Do we count
that even count that one? Like that's it's crazy to me to think that he plays on a team that's he's going to be the
leading scoreer in the league and they might not make the playoffs.
Like how how crazy is that? They can't possibly finish it out of the top 10.
But they got but they got to win that play. I I understand that. I understand they got to win the playoff depending on what
seed they get in that particular situation. Gave it to be home or away. No, right.
I don't I'm so disgruntled with this Sixers. You know, Giannis on the Koopo now to be traded. How about How about MB
for Giannis? would I don't know if Milwaukee would do it. Milwaukee would never do that.
I would know Milwaukee would do it. They would would never do that. But maybe they need some kind of change in scenery and they need to have a
superstar in their lineup even though he plays once a month. Uh no, that's not going to happen. He's probably going to go to the Knicks. The
Knicks are going to figure out a way to get him. And that's going to be your your uh your Giannis trade to the New
York Knicks. Yep. All right. Uh we'll take a quick break on the other side.
play the hockey horn because Anthony Sanippo will have his Flyers hockey report that's coming up right after
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[Music] Back on the on Patterson podcast with Mike Minnelli. Anthony Sanalippo covers
the Flyers for Owen Patterson and uh a big loss for the Philadelphia Flyers
this week. Explain what happened with Tyson Forester. Yeah, it was a tough one on Monday night, Mike, and and probably the Flyers
worst game of their season. Um Tyson Forester, he scored a goal to tie the game and then on a power play, he was uh
lining up for a one-time shot and as he followed through, he immediately dropped
the stick and grabbed his shoulder. Um he's got a significant shoulder injury.
It's going to keep him out of action. Flyers are saying two to three months. Um I believe that there's um you know
more to this than than they're letting on. Um, they're probably going to try and rehab it a little bit first to see
if it starts to get better and try to avoid some kind of surgery. Um, I think
that they're hopeful for that and that's the two to three month time frame. Um, if in fact it doesn't start to get
better in in a little bit of time, I I wouldn't be surprised if it ended up being longer than that. He is their most
important forward right now. More than Mishkov, more than Zegris. He's a 200
foot player. plays offense and defense, leading goal scorer uh on the team with 10 goals. Um and and and just does a
little bit of everything. Kills penalties. He's on the power play. That is a tough player to replace. Um they
did a nice job last night. They come back and beat the Buffalo Sabres 5 to2 last night. Um but it was the Buffalo
Sabres who frankly stink. So yeah, you're you take some positives out of
it. They had a couple power play goals. They got shots to the net. Those are things that Rick Tockett's been preaching about, but I think we'll see
the true uh loss of Forester when they play the Colorado Avalanche on Sunday. Colorado
Avalanche. Mike, let me just throw something at you. Colorado Avalanche, it's it's now December the 4th.
You know how many times they've lost in regulation so far this year? Twice. Once.
Once. Once they're 191 and six. Amazing. That's insane. So like the
Flyers got to face that on Sunday and and I think that that's where you'll see the difference
between where they what you know what the Colorado Avalanche are and what the Flyers right now. Right now the Flyers are a
playoff team. Correct. Yes. They're actually in third place in East in the Metropolitan Division. That so that's all good. So So talk to
me about Rick Taka and the job he's been doing, what he tries to do and the things he says afterwards because he he
he doesn't hold back really. He he tells it like it is. He's great and and and look, he's great for us as media, you
know, when you're down there and you're talking to the guy and you ask him a question and especially if you ask for something specific, he will tell you
something specific. He will give you a specific answer. He won't mince words. He won't like I asked him about he was
complaining about the penalty kill the other day saying, "Well, it's been the last five games. It's been a little bit off." And I said, "Can you give me an
example?" And he went out and put pointed on a mistake that Travis Sanheim made on the penalty kill. And he called
him out by name. And it wasn't like he was being overtly critical of the guy. He
was just saying, "Hey, here's a mistake that was made. We'll get into the room. We'll clean it up and and we'll make sure that it doesn't happen again." And
it it translates, you know, they have the best record in the NHL coming off of a loss. They're 81 and two this year
coming off of a loss. That's pretty darn good. They've only lost a second game in a row twice and two times they lost in
in overtime. Show stakes and button it up a little more from one game to the next. Yeah. And I think that that's a thing
and I think that that's a sign of a good coaching staff, right? Is that they what they do is rather than try and beat the
players over the head, do it a certain way every game. They take what they did wrong in the game before and they say,
"All right, let's look at those m those mistakes. Let's clean those up for the
next game." And I think it makes them feel a little bit better about themselves going into the next game. Okay. Um All right. All right. So,
Flyers, if the Flyers make the playoffs, that'll be a significant improvement from where they have been. And uh this
this whole thing about building something, finally taking root, because I haven't really seen it, you know, like
when when Jones and and Briier took over, that was the the methodology. That was the the script they were going to
follow. I hadn't seen it until this year. Do you believe this is the year where it's really taking root?
It is taking root, and I was much more confident about them being a playoff team before the Forester injury. I I I
now worry a little bit that that could hurt them enough to to miss. Um I think
he was that important of of a player for them. Um but we'll see. I mean, the one thing I will say is that they will work.
They they work they like playing for pocket. They will work hard and they've been getting good goalending and that
you know when you have good goalending that can hide a lot of deficiencies um because it keeps you in games and then
you just got to take advantage of mistakes every once in a while. Um, so I think that they still have a shot. I I
don't think that they're completely out of the mix here. And like I said, they're in third place in the Metro, but the the Eastern Conference is incredibly
tight. They are just they're one point out of first and two points out of the playoffs. That's how close things are
right now. So, we'll see how things go. The schedule's very condensed. They've played a lot of home games. There's
going to be a big road trip coming up later this month. It's like 10 and 11 on the road. I think that will dictate what
they really are. Do you go on that road trip? No. No. They won't go on that road trip. No. No. Flyers aren't. Flyers aren't
good enough to to, you know, spend the money to go traveling all over the country. No. Not going to put you on the charter.
No. No. They don't do that anymore. Let me ask you a question because you covered the Phillies, you covered the Flyers. You've covered the Flyers for a
really long time. Tell me the difference in covering a baseball team and a hockey team. They're, you know, it's interesting.
They're they're kind of similar and I I think they're different than But I do think they're different than football
and basketball. Um, h here's the thing with hockey guys. These are just kids
who are just stunned that they're professional athletes, right? So, they're they're very they're very good,
quiet, nice guys, quiet guys, always affable, always willing to talk,
whatever. It's never a problem. Um, baseball players are a little bit more
hotty. Not all of them. Not all of them, right? But some of them are a little bit if you know if you're a
superstar baseball player, you dictate when you talk as opposed to You know why? You know why that is?
Because you're not humbled. Baseball, even though it's the singular hardest thing to do as a hit a baseball,
it is the easiest physically on I know there's a lot of travel. I know there's a lot of games, don't get me wrong, but
you you are never pressed like you are in hockey, football, or even basketball
physically. Yeah, you're right about that. And and therefore, you become entitled.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and I I do notice that. I mean, there's, like I said, there are certain players, I don't want
to make it be a an o an overall statement on on baseball players because
I think that there are a lot of guys who who recognize, you know, that they have to do their duty and be good to the
media and talk to us all the time and whatever. Um, but yeah, you're right. There are guys who are a little bit more entitled and and you just kind of you
just kind of accept that and and that's okay. They're not bad guys in that clubhouse. They're not like when you were covering the Phillies and there
were some really bad attitudes in that club. Oh man, I could I could tell a lot of baseball
clubhouse stories, but uh we we will spare you for for this time. I'm looking at our chat board.
Yeah. And uh uh here you go. Jason LCD. Oh,
LCD Sound System. He must be a fan of the band LCD Sound System, which makes him, you know, one of my my man my guys.
I I like LCD Sound System. Do you know LCD Sound Systems? I've heard of it. I don't know. I don't
know much about You don't know the band? No. Oh, the band. The band. LCD Sound System.
No, I don't know the band. You don't know the band? Ah, check it out. I'm sure this is what he That's why it's in his title. Jason LCD. I hope PSU
gets humiliated in a December 27th bowl game. There you go. Here comes the Penn
State hatred. Here's another big big daddy L. Rob Mike. The PSU execs aren't
going to turn away money to play in a bowl game. What kind of money are they going to get in that bowl game?
What a dollar 380. How much money are they going to get in a in a in a inferior bowl game between six lost
teams? Is it worth it? Yeah, I agree. I think that they should turn
it down, too. I think they should turn it down, too. Hey, Mike. Larry Fett thinks we should do the show five days a
week. I see this. I see Larry says we should do it five five days a week. All right. Well, any event, let's get into some
quick hitters. Anthony, couple of things after your own heart and then we'll wrap this baby up.
Penn and Villanovva in the Big Five Classic title game. There's a lot of people don't even know this is going on
and I had covered college basketball in the city for many years. Uh so I I used to love the big five because it was
Villanova the kingpin and everybody else trying to knock them off. But at that time Temple and Lel were capable of
knocking them off and St. Joe's every once in a while, right? Every once in a while. But but but
here's the thing. The disparity between Villanovavva. Now listen, it's not the
Jay Wright days and Willard's gonna have to build that program to that extent, but they've got like $60 million in NIL
money to spend on players, which nobody else in the Big Five has. You think the Big Five is dead? You think these round
robbins should be done? I think they should be done because nobody goes to them. It's kind of an
embarrassment when you go down to the arena and it's a half empty arena for this big five day to go see like this
the you know the this fifth fifth place game the third place game and then the championship game at night and then this
year it gets watered down even further that it's not even Villanova Temple or Villanova St. shows it's Villanova pen
like there. Come on. Like what? There's not even going to be close. Nor do I think anybody's going to show up for it.
Like it I just if you want to play play each other each year, play each other each year that keep those kind of like
story rivalries going, that's fine. But to try and keep this big five classic as
like a thing that that you do in the city every year to me it's a bunch of guys who loved basketball in the 60s
when it was the big five was all that matters in Philadelphia trying to be hangers on. That really is what it means
to them. Like that's the only people it means anything to. It doesn't mean anything otherwise. It's not what it used to be. Just let it go. Play your
games and be done with it. All right. So play your games. Let it be no more big five.
No more tournament. Like I don't need this all this one day thing at the Exfinity Mobile Arena. I don't need it.
You're a communist, man. This is good. Go good old Americana.
Here's the last thing with the coaches that leave before their play the playoffs. Oh, Lane Kein.
I I the Lane Kein situation. Listen, if you're Lane Kein, how could you turn down that?
Seriously, he made him $13 million a year. Yeah. How could you turn it down? The problem
I have with the whole thing, Mike, is I think that the calendar is offline as far as what the signing day and all
that stuff. Well, everything everything like it should you should never be in a situation where you are the coach of a
team that's going into the playoffs and you say, "Yeah, I'm going to walk away because I'm going to go coach this other
team." Like, it's it's just it's just bad. It's just and but the but I understand why it happened because the
way that the the recruiting calendar works and the transfer portal calendar works and everything else works it has
to happen now and not a month from now. And so that's the problem you're saying but but suppose they do
change the date. How what would what hardship would that be? They changed the date. The signing date would come after
these coaches can coach their teams in the ball games and then leave. Correct. Yes. That's what you would that
would be just at least look at least get through the playoff like college basketball it
happens right I mean how many times do you see a coach from a small or mid- major school leave the mid- major school
after March Madness and go to take a bigger bigger job but at least he gets his team through March Madness like as
opposed to like right before March Madness starts be like hey I'm out see you later somebody else will coach you
in the tournament all right that's my complaint I hear you a little tweak and maybe that that will solve things. But you blame
Lane. You don't like that Lane Kein move, did it? No. I mean, come on. It's the It's It's terrible. That's so bad. You got a He
has a team. It's got a chance to win national championship. A better job. Why? It's the same conference.
What? LSU, they've got money more resources than Miss does.
And yet you And yet he built Old Miss to a point where they can win a national championship. Once once LSU, you can do it every year.
Yeah. But once you did, but once you do it, don't you have the opportunity to then keep continue to do
it. Not at all miss. I think you do. You're in the biggest conference program in Old Miss.
Sure. Historically, but it's still the same conference. You're in the SEC. You got money in the SEC. There's that. Like
to me, I don't think that that I think it's a bad move. I think it's a really bad move. Hey, one last
one last little note for you um that I noticed during the commercial break. So, we I know we were going to
talk originally going to mention, you know, Darius Slay as a possibility for the Eagles. Um, but then
he got claimed by the Buffalo Bills and then decided decided he's not going to go there.
Why? They they're a contender. I don't know. I don't know. Like, so what what does that mean? So he may say
he's going to retire, but there was a report that came out, John Clark put it out before he was claimed by Buffalo
that there was mutual interest with Slay coming back to the Eagles. So how do you
go from mutual interest to go to the Eagles getting claimed by Buffalo to
saying I'm going to retire like well he's hoping that the league says okay you get a special deferment and you can
sign with anybody you want and you therefore you can sign with the Eagles. But that that shouldn't happen. The league should not make that happen.
Well, unless Buffalo just decides what if Buffalo decides to just let him go.
They could do him a solid they could. I guess, right? They could, but may maybe that's a team
they'll face in the playoffs and they don't want to do that. They don't want to help another team. Well, uh, was Buffalo weren't really
worried about facing the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Buffalo versus the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Slay makes a big play.
All right, man. That that'll not do it for this particular podcast on Patterson with Mike Misinelli and Anthony San
Philippo. We'll be back at it next Thursday and I will I will be uh I'll be having a knee procedure. So I'll be I'll
be all wrapped up but I'll still do it because I play her. Yeah, I am flying home really early that
morning. So I will be fresh off the plane from Orlando. Yeah, there you go.
Tune in next week to see Anony's tan. Thanks for listening everybody. Thanks for watching. Thanks for everybody who
participated in the chat. Have a great rest of the night and we'll talk to you next week. Bye-bye.