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What's going on, everybody? This is Jeff with
Living in Arizona, and today we're going to talk

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about Los Angeles versus Phoenix. Currently
in Los Angeles, I've spent a couple of days

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as you know, I was traveling in Australia
and New Zealand, and before that I was in

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Southeast Asia. So now I come back, I spent a
couple of days in Los Angeles, and I've been

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here, what, 20 times in my life, maybe more.
So I have a lot of experience with Los Angeles

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But a lot of you guys want to know, what's
the difference between Phoenix and L.A.

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Being that I've been here so many times and I just recently came
here, I can tell you what it's like right now, the comparison

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So the first thing that stands out is the people. The
people in Los Angeles, I think they're just overwhelmed

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They're dealing with so many people from all over the place that,
yes, there's friendly people and there's plenty of friendly people

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But for the most part, people
are really on edge out here

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I mean, they're uppity. They're like they just don't have patience for anything because they're
constantly dealing with people, whether it's driving on these freeways where they're just clustered

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And in Phoenix, you get just this more laid back kind of vibe and people are more friendly
and easygoing and you don't feel like they might bite your head off at any given moment

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I mean, that's how it feels in L.A. is that, like I said,
there's plenty of friendly people, but it's really high

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There's a lot of high anxiety here,
I think, is what the best word is

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And I could see why so many people are on pharmaceuticals, because when
they get in this situation, they're like, what the heck is going on with me

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Hey, thanks to the three people who crushed up
the likes. What's up, Scott? What's up, Civic

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I know it's President's Day. Some of you guys are actually celebrating the
holiday, aren't you? I did make a video about Los Angeles on Island Hopper TV

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if you guys want to take a look. I just went
around to like five of the key places downtown

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Downtown Los Angeles, especially towards
the east, it's a no-go. It's a no-go. I mean

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you've heard of places like, I don't know what
they're called, where they have the tent cities

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and everything, but here's why it's a no-go.
It's unhygienic. It's disgusting. I didn't put

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this in the video that I made yesterday, but I did make another video that I'll probably post
at a later date, showing you guys just what the conditions are in that part of Los Angeles

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I mean, there's human feces right there, right there in the middle of the sidewalk.
You're walking by it, there's flies swarming all over it, and it's just sitting there

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Like, who did that, like, right there in the middle
of the street? Then there's vomit in one corner

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There's piss on the other side of the corner,
and I apologize for using these strong words

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and graphics, but that's how Los
Angeles downtown area really is becoming

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Phoenix just doesn't have that kind of problem yet. Hopefully it never gets there. But
I mean, you'll be walking down the road and you'll see a puddle and that's not water

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That's not a leak. That's human. OK. And there was a place
I walked through the the just this little area in downtown

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And I felt like there was just germs and bacteria in there and there was people who
were sleeping in there and you could almost feel the disease like building in there

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So it's and I think that's what really stood out to me
about Los Angeles is it's like in the event of an outbreak

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Like, holy moly, this place is ground zero for just disease. So, you know, it
made me appreciate living in Phoenix and being like, man, we're so spread out

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And where I live in the suburbs, I mean,
you can get suburbs out here in Los Angeles

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But I just felt like more secure and more
safe knowing that I'm kind of out of it all

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But I'm still in Phoenix. So thanks to
the nine people who crushed up likes

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And we're going to compare more about Phoenix. I just wanted to get that off my chest because that's what really inspired
this video was just the anxiety and the disease feeling that you get kind of in this big, massive metropolitan area

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And that doesn't even include what's happened to Venice Beach. Venice Beach is the land of, I don't
know, you guys who haven't been to Venice Beach, go there and you'll be like, I got to get out of here

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That's Venice Beach for you. But there's a lot of people down there. If you want
to compare population, Phoenix metro areas, they're about four to five million

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Los Angeles Metro is around 13 million. If you
just compare Phoenix versus Los Angeles directly

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Los Angeles has about 4 million people, Phoenix
1.5 million. So, I mean, all in all, Los Angeles

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is two to three times bigger than Phoenix for
the most part, even if you include the metro area

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And Los Angeles is probably the first real
megagopolis city. I mean, this city is huge

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in terms of area and landmass. If you really
include San Bernardino and even it's probably

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connected all the way out to Palm Springs. The
thing is, Los Angeles is a place that probably

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couldn't take on more people moving here, but more
and more people keep moving here. So it keeps on

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getting bigger and bigger. Even though people are
leaving, it's still growing. You know, it's kind of

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weird. But yeah, so and then in terms of cost
of living, I mean, it's just so expensive here

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You know, you get a house in Los Angeles where
you're looking at on the low side, five to seven

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hundred thousand for just a regular house whereas
in phoenix you get that same house for three

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hundred thousand dollars food it seemed like like
i'd pull out two hundred dollars cash out of the

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out of the atm and i felt like that two hundred
dollars in los angeles goes faster than really

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anywhere else so that stood out to me it was like
i was like man that 200 bucks where did it all go

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i was just like just hanging out in los angeles is
expensive you know venice beach is kind of crazy

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um Deliah says not right now thank you okay okay
I'm okay no worries that was the housekeeper anyways

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um so where was I have you ever been to Virginia
because I currently live here in Yorktown on the

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financially. Yeah, I went to Virginia. I went
to Washington, D.C. and Arlington and all that

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just six months ago, five months ago. D.C. is
another city. It's funny because D.C. is such a

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big political environment with a lot of wealthy
people, but right there in the heart of downtown

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right where the state or the nation's capital
is and the Congress and all that, there's

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you know, it's just got all this homeless
problem, kind of like what they have in L.A

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I mean, it's a tent city all up and
down here, right? Let's see here

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Okay, so comparing some other things,
Phoenix is actually a younger city

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So more young people live in
Phoenix than they do in Los Angeles

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In terms of education system, I mean,
there is a pretty good education

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There's UCLA out here. I mean, a lot of
people want to get their kids educated there

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But if you're going to go to college, it's still cheaper to
go to school in Arizona than it is to go to school in Phoenix

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versus anywhere in the United States. But I think Arizona State University you get a pretty good education there
In terms of weather I would say the climate is really good in Los Angeles and that probably not going to go away

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I mean, right, I don't know, the climate in
Los Angeles, it does get into the hundreds

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They basically have two seasons in L.A. They have the rainy season and the dry
season, and the rainy season is not a rainy season by any standard of the imagination

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And Phoenix, you know, we kind of have a rainy season
and a dry season, but we also have a monsoon season

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So, I mean, that's kind of good. But the average
temperature in Phoenix in the summer is what, 105 to 110

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In Los Angeles, it's going to be like 95 to 100, you know. So in terms of
the job market, I would say Los Angeles's job market is not that fantastic

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I mean, yeah, there's some really good jobs here. And especially if you work
in like media, it's probably a good place to be or if you work in showbiz

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But outside of that, I mean, the unemployment
rate's lower in Phoenix than it is in Phoenix

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And in fact, if you look at the future prospects for job growth, Phoenix is set to exceed a lot of, is
going to blow right past Los Angeles in terms of future job growth and even the rest of the United States

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So if you're looking to grow into a job, Phoenix is probably going to
be a better place for you for a career if you can get in the right fit

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Because of the way the city is
growing, it's growing with the future

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So as the future is developing and the new industries and new technologies
like Lucid Auto, electric cars, Lucid Motors, which is a competitor of Tesla

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you're in the situation where Phoenix is kind of cutting edge. Los Angeles
is kind of like so big, it can't even really be cutting edge anymore

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So that's a big thing. Also, driving. I mean, to
get anywhere in Los Angeles, it's so spread out

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I mean, you got to drive so far over
here. And yeah, Phoenix is the same way

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You got to drive really far to
get places. But I don't know, man

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It feels like the traffic is
crazy in L.A. I mean, crazy, crazy

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Let's see. I got some comments. um la has traffic starting
at 5 30 until 9 until traffic until 11 on weekends yeah um

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my salary is higher here in phoenix than it
was in los angeles says scott that's that's

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interesting surprise or peoria which is the best
to live with a young family both are pretty good

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eric but you might consider peoria because
it's just a little bit further out of town

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and it's close enough to the 101 where you can
get anywhere. Surprise is pretty good, though

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I mean, it's not my favorite, but, I mean, if you're
already set on the West Valley, Peoria probably

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Civic says, Virginia is somewhat
lackluster for me, just doesn't excite me

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like Georgia, Florida, Arizona, Texas, South
Carolina. Yeah, Virginia doesn't excite me either

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If there was another state that does excite
me that's on that list, I don't know

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For me, the states that excite me
are Florida, Arizona, Texas, Hawaii

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But Hawaii is getting kind of out of hand. It's paradise. It's
almost becoming a lost paradise, kind of like Los Angeles

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Thanks to the 19 people who crushed up
the likes. Pete Brown, Central Scottsdale

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Yeah, so if you guys have any other questions about my experience here in Los
Angeles, if you want to know more, you better ask right now while we're live

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or I can try to message you afterwards on a
comment. But LA overall, it's just too anxious

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It's too much. It's too much life. Even if you go to, like,
Beverly Hills, you've got to have big money to be over there

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But even then, I mean, it's kind of chill.
But that's like such a high-rep district

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like good luck trying to live there. And then if
you live out in places like the far north and

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Santa Clarita or something like that, or the far
south over in like Temecula, I mean, you're so far

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out of it all. Why even live in California at that
point? You might as well just go save money and go

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move to Phoenix. Now, granted, people in Phoenix
are like, no, don't move here. Don't move here

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We don't need California to come kill off our
state too. We don't need Californians. But I'm

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saying that if you're one of those types of people
who understand what the Arizona mentality is and

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and you're okay with just kind of chilling out
and getting in sync with the Arizona rhythm

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you'll probably enjoy it. And that's who I'm talking to here, not these
people who are trying to bring Los Angeles problems over to Phoenix, right

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Because no one wants that. And I'm
saying that's the big complaint

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So when will Phoenix Metro become expensive like LA
area? There is limited land in Phoenix Metro for growth

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That's not true at all, man. And Phoenix
Metro has so much room to grow. We could grow

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Phoenix can grow all the way towards
Wickenburg, which is out past Peoria

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It can also grow past Buckeye, and it
can also grow south towards Casa Grande

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So this whole idea that Phoenix Metro doesn't have room to grow,
who said that? I'm not trying to put you down, Steakburger Master

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I'm just curious where you got that idea
because have you been towards Casa Grande

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There's that whole area from Maricopa, Cassie Grant, Southeast
Phoenix. There's nothing but even where I live out in Santan Valley

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I mean, there's nothing but room to grow out towards the
superstition. So we're not even close to that problem

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And then Buckeye, where Bill Gates is building that smart
city. I mean, there's tons of room to grow out there

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Tons. I wouldn't want to live out there. But I mean,
if you want to move out towards Buckeye, go for it

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Thousand Oaks, Ventura County and Orange County are very nice,
affluent places to live in SoCal with great amenities and a job market

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Beautiful, too. It's not all L.A. Yeah, I mean, north.
Yeah, you're talking Ventura. Yeah, I like it up there

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Even towards Santa Barbara, Malibu. All nice. High rent district. I mean, you're still going to be paying two times
more for a home, two to three times more for a home to live up there than you would even maybe even Scottsdale

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uh rachel says i live in thousand oaks and it
used to be nice there are too many people now

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yeah it's getting a steak burger master i drove
all around az i agree there's a lot of land but

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i'm talking about most of az land being federally
owned yeah there's a point it's it's so you're

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talking phoenix because arizona has a lot of
native american indian reservations so those are

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more or less like we have the most indian
reservations in all than any other state right

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And Phoenix if you look off to the east you have towards Scottsdale you have Fort McDowell you have the Talking Stick Indian Reservation
that area over there And then you have the Gila River Indian Reservation to the south So you have Fort McDowell You have the what is it

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Not the Tohono Odom. I can't even
remember all the Indian Reservations

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But they were even talking about they're going
to start developing that area of Scottsdale

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So if you're driving up the 101, if you look east or if you
look west towards Camelback Mountain, that's Scottsdale, right

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We're talking 101 north just past, like, I
don't know, from Shea Boulevard south to the 202

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But if you look to the right, remember,
you're heading north. It says empty land

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You see Talking Stick Casino. You see the
aquarium. But it's all just flat land undeveloped

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Well, that's because that's Native American land. And
they don't develop it because it's all reservation

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Well, they're having a conversation about possibly continuing to develop that because what they've what happens
is just like how big companies go offshore to get immunity from over taxation or over like too many laws

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These these companies are wanting to build on Indian reservations because just like how they can build a casino over there,
even though Arizona doesn't have doesn't allow legalized gambling, they can go to a reservation and build a casino there

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So what they're doing is they're talking about doing some of these things like that's why they built the
aquarium there, because, you know, PETA is so aggressive and and all these animal rights activists and stuff

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And, you know, they had a problem with trying
to build a marine mammal aquarium in the desert

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That was like a big thing. So they built it on the Native American Indian Reservation to
kind of, you know, stay clear of all of the the groups that could be coming towards them

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so uh yeah i i see what you're
saying man steak burger master

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how do you how do taxes offer maricopa versus penile county oh i'd have to
really dive into that details i don't really know yet i know that where i live

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in penile county we don't even have rural
metro rural metro is the fire department so

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so even though you might pay less in taxes
you're still getting hit with something because

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it's like rural metro is like, do you want us to
come to your house in the event of a fire? If you

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do sign up for this extra. So I noticed that you
might be thinking that you're saving money, but

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then all of a sudden here comes rural metro. Then
here comes the Pinal County Sheriff's Department

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asking if you want protection and pay them
something too. So it's like half a dozen, you know

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it's like you might think you're saving money,
but you're getting the choice. So you can decline

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rural metro to come save your house from a
fire and not have to pay them. But, you know

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it's one of those things. All right. Pelham
says, Hey, just join the chat. Maybe you already

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answered this, but how does downtown Phoenix
compare to downtown LA? So downtown LA has a

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little bit taller buildings than downtown Los
Angeles. Like you have a U S bank building in LA

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which is one of the tallest buildings in America.
Phoenix doesn't have tall skyscrapers. You'll

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notice that there's not very many tall ones. And
one of the reasons they say is because it right

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there in the flight path of sky harbor if you fly
into sky harbor especially from the west you'll see

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you fly right over downtown and so that's why they
say that was the one reason why they say we don't

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have high-rise number two is they don't really
need high-rises in phoenix because they just grow

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you know in all different directions so you don't
need a city center like you have an hong kong

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or tokyo where you need to build up these tall
city uh towers because you need city centers

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You know, another area that's getting a downtown, like a second
downtown in Phoenix is Tempe by Mill Avenue down by Tempe Town Lake

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They're starting to build a lot more skyscrapers. But in terms
of like livability, both are not very good downtown areas

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They're not like the financial district of Phoenix and
the financial district of Los Angeles are not very livable

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Neither of them. Um, there's much more of a homeless concentration in the Los
Angeles around the Los Angeles downtown area than there is around downtown Phoenix

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Uh, they're both, I would say at the end
of the day, neither of them are livable

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I mean, it's not like Austin, Texas downtown
where you want to live in downtown Austin

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It's not like downtown San Francisco where you live down there.
Although San Francisco has a major homeless problem also

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Um, even San Diego has got a really nice downtown. If you're looking for a good downtown,
like if you were to compare Phoenix to San Diego, San Diego's got Phoenix beat by a long shot

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But yeah, Pete Brown says Tempe looks booming. Yeah,
Tempe just keeps growing and growing and growing

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I've been gone for two months. I'm sure if I, even if I'm being gone for two
months from Tempe, I'll come back and I'll be like, wow, Tempe just grew some more

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Whereas downtown Phoenix isn't having that gentrification or
that growth or that development taking place like Tempe's having

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So Tempe all in all is a really good place to live. The
closer you are to Tempe, the better off you're going to be

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You don't really want to live too close to downtown LA.
You don't really want to live too close to downtown Phoenix

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You want to be closer to like Beverly Hills or
Wilshire Boulevard in Los Angeles or Hollywood even

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I don't know about Hollywood, but in
Phoenix, you want to be closer to Tempe

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so that that being close to tempe includes
scottsdale um chandler awatuki mesa maybe

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gilbert gilbert's a good place too tempe does
have a lot of homeless every downtown area is

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going to have homeless in america it's not like
new zealand where there's no homeless okay it's

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not like australia like you don't want homeless
go to australia go to new zealand they don't have

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homelessness like they don't have this pooping
and peeing on the side of the street with drug

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addicts and syringes and stuff on the side of the
road they don't have that there well they do they

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might and like a it's you you can go there and
you won't see it in america the first thing that

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these japanese tourists say or these chinese
tourists or anyone from australia or something

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is whoa that's dangerous in la like there's
countless times i've heard people say la is

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dangerous we're talking japanese tourists people
who come here and they say la is dangerous

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and it's there's not too many cities on earth
that have that kind of reputation like maybe

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Mexico City, Rio de Janeiro, Los Angeles. Those
are cities that have that kind of reputation

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But Tokyo, Sydney, Singapore, they don't have
that reputation of being very dangerous places

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like Los Angeles. So it's kind of and even if you
talk to the locals about that particular issue of

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why Los Angeles has this reputation and being so
dangerous, they don't like it. They don't like

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being a part of a city that's so dangerous.
Or it's a national embarrassment in a way

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to a lot of people who live here. Thank you Anna Anna says welcome back Jeff I moving to Phoenix area in six years when I
retired Do you think Southeast Valley is going to be the hot area All of Phoenix is going to be about the same temperature

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I don't know where in Southeast Valley you're going to
retire, but I'd imagine you're talking about sun lakes

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Sun lakes is the 55 plus retirement community. In Southeast
Phoenix, there's also Encantara, which is far East Phoenix

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And then there's these, uh, are you going to be in a mobile home park? There's a lot of mobile home parks where you
get like one to two bedroom houses that are pretty nice in these really cool communities and like Mesa and whatnot

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So, I mean, Southeast Valley is going
to be no hotter or colder than Sun City

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OK. Michael says, or you can just go to Scottsdale.
They don't have any to have any homeless

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Yeah. Scottsdale is really trying to eradicate the homeless problem. That's why they don't want to build the light rail up there because the second they put in mass transit,
because along those mass transit lines, the bus routes and the light rail, that's where the homeless people kind of set up their tents is because they can get around

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They don't want to have to walk way up and down. Another thing that
Scottsdale did is they put up a sign where it says, do not feed the homeless

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If you want to give to the homeless, give to
a nonprofit who's helping homeless people

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So in Scottsdale, they have signs on the side of the
road saying, do not give directly to the homeless

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You might be like, oh, that's so evil, that's so rude. Well, what they're saying is what's
happening is these homeless people, you give them five bucks, they go out and they buy more drugs

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And then when they buy more drugs, that creates more of a problem. So whereas if you give it to a charity that's helping out homeless
people, assuming it's not a corrupt one that's just pocketing 75 percent of its revenues, because we heard about that, right

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You know, it's better to just give to
someone who already is helping homeless

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um so at one point richmond virginia was
the murder capital of the u.s a civic

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lexus kind of guy yeah i mean i was even
talking to uber driver he said that

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if you think los angeles is dangerous now you
should have seen it in the 80s and the 90s remember

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back when the rodney king riots happened remember
the riots of la back in the early 90s i mean

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los angeles has never really been a safe place
and even if you look at most cities in america

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America's never really been a safe, safe
place. I mean, it's never really been the case

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And truth be told, we're probably the safest
that we've ever been in the last 20 to 30 years

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I mean, it's not like the 50s or the 40s back when, you know, you could leave
your house unlocked right in the middle of downtown Los Angeles or something

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Keenan says, I'm moving to Tucson in a few months. I've taken public
transportation for the last 15 years, but or should I buy a car

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I heard that. Oh, if you're moving to Tucson, there is no doubt you need a car. there is
no doubt about it you need a car unless you really want to suffer if you're moving to

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tucson you absolutely 100 need a car this whole
idea that you can live in tucson without a car

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unless you're just going to be going to the
university are you going to be in the university

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i mean i guess that's cool but if you're moving
to tucson yeah you need a car if you're moving

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to phoenix you're going to need a car phoenix
and tucson are car cities even even los angeles

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This is a car city. Eric says, which suburb can you get the
most bang for your buck as far as living lifestyle growth

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Well, Santan Valley is pretty good,
but it doesn't have the best lifestyle

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Buckeye, you can get a lot of bang for
your buck, but not the best lifestyle

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If you're looking for the best lifestyle,
probably I always say Ahwatukee

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And it's funny because I say Ahwatukee on this channel so
many times. I think it goes in one ear and out the other

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Or people are like, well, he just told me where the best
bank for your buck is. I'm not going to check there

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Because of the name. Everyone hears the name Ahwatukee and they're
just like, I think they're even going to change the name of Ahwatukee

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There's some sort of merging that's happening
between, it's like Tukedale or something like that

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They're going to change the name. But Ahwatukee, in my opinion, is number one
in the Phoenix metro area in terms of price affordability, location, all that

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so if you haven't already checked out awatuki
i recommend it and here's the thing it's just

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off the fringe of chandler and tempe but it's up
against the mountain so you get this like mountain

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like you can like you get like hiking right there
and then you get like right next to the freeway

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and pretty nice quality homes i mean it's getting
older like a lot of the homes that they built

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right there are starting to age but like in the 80s
and the 90s i mean that was the real true hidden

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gem like drummer said bang for buck
anywhere close to 101 and 60 access

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entertainment areas Scottsdale Tempe Phoenix
no I don't know Scott I saw there's some sort

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of merger happening with like no
it was Levine I'm sorry it was

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Levine and and it was one of the
it was one of the cities they're

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building like this new city and they're
gonna they're gonna merge it between like

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the old city name or the two cities and they're
going to like half them. I don't remember. I saw

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it like, and I was just like, it was a terrible
name. Anything you try to half with Awatuki

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is just not going to work. Um, Jubilee says,
is Buckeye really bad? Buckeye is not terrible

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It's brand new. I mean, Buckeye used to be the
armpit of Phoenix, but they built a whole bunch

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of homes out there, like 15 to 20,000 new people
came out there with all these homes. So it all

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of a sudden became kind of nice, just a modern
area, but there's still not a lot of things out

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there but it's a slingshot ride down the i-10 to
get to anything and it's hot and buckeye buckeye

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just feels like five to ten degrees hotter it's
right there at the in the basin of like the gila

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river valley you know it's just right there on
the gila river and it's dry the gila river is dry

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was looking at scottsdale but would be nice and
safe place as far as west as possible i need to

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be closer to San Diego, even if it's by 30
minutes. Thank you. Um, I don't know, Greg

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check out all with two key. Yeah. Crime is really
everywhere. Anyways, guys, thanks to the, uh

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35 people who crushed up the likes. Do you guys
want me to keep going or, or you guys all done

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with your questions? Cause I'm going to go get
some breakfast anyways, guys. Yeah. I'll see you

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guys later. Um, I'll see you on the next one.
I'm headed home to Phoenix. So I was gone for two

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months. If you haven't already seen my video of
Los Angeles on Island Hopper TV, I made a video

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of Los Angeles, uh, walking around downtown. You
guys can check it out. So we'll see you guys later
