right then if you're here I expect
you've decided you want the current best
resin 3D printer on the consumer Market
but wait a minute there are two best
printers and both of them are made by
the same company so how do you decide
between the best and the best well it
depends on what you want your printer
for and so which of the features you
need that's why we're going to cover the
differences today so you can walk away
knowing which purchase is best for you
these machines do a lot and there's a
lot to cover so let's get on with it hi
I'm Ross and this is f Hammer videos
okay quickly the thing I'm not going to
go deep into the argument for again is
proprietary resin I've got a separate
video on that and the tldr is these
machines use proprietary resin they are
probably compatible with a lot more
resins out there but it's on you or
other people in the community to test
those results suffice to say this has
been the most polarizing aspect of ha
gears printers but whether you're for or
against it is a choice and it's your
choice I came out the gate with the same
initial reaction as many of you and that
was um no guys is this a joke the price
of that resin seriously but the more
time I've been self-compiled to work
with these machines The more I've
realized just how incredible this whole
system and workflow is when compared to
the competition these are the best
printers on the market and in some ways
they are the best because of the
proprietary resin these are the only
ones that offer the highest quality no
no hassle resin printing but I also
understand how this feels limiting to so
many people especially on price though
whilst many have said these machines are
far too expensive for hobby machines but
In fairness even the more expensive
reflex printer is a similar price to a
bamboo Labs X1 Carbon and they're
selling like hot cakes still years later
but anyway as I've said and then I've
got into doing it I'm not going to do
that whole argument again here I've done
it it's your choice and at least it's a
choice that you have moving on to the
comparison both machines have a similar
industrial look from the outset but the
RS is made of more plasticky components
overall the rs's dimensions are 380x
360x 584 mm and it weighs in at 20 kilos
the reflex is larger and beefier at 400x
420x 573 mm and this one weighs in at 25
kilos before we get into the nuts and
alts the additional external features of
these machines include the ports both
machines support the pulsing release
module which is basically an air
compressor that pumps air in between the
screen and the build plate to reduce
vacuum on the screen and reduce pull
forces this speeds up prints and reduces
the size of support contact points you
need for success and that reduces the
amount of cleanup you need after a print
often and with the right resins it
eradicates it entirely The Reflex has an
internal PSU with the power socket and
the power switch on the right hand side
of the rear panel the RS has an external
PSU which connects on the front right
side next to the power switch both
machines have a USB port on the front
right side not that I've Ever Needed
these because the built-in Wi-Fi
capabilities on both machines and direct
integration with blueprint slicer and
app means that I only ever had to
transfer files remotely the newer RS
however also has an SD card expansion
slot so you can expand the internal
memory both machines have a deep Amber
flip up lid that you can only really see
through when the orange internal lights
are switched on and even then you only
really get a silhouette of your print if
that but it does have very strong
external UV protection so double-edged
sword bit of a plus minus the flip up
Lids themselves are similar and whilst
The Reflex has bracings looking to
reinforce the mechanism the seemingly
simpler design on the RS allows you to
hold the lid open at any point you like
where the older reflex doesn't another
small feature of the reflex is for when
you remove the resin bottle both
printers have an opening in the back to
insert an inverted bottle and the reflex
has a larger opening which was lightly
indicated a long while ago would
actually be for larger bottles but these
if they were coming never came out but
anyway the reflex however has this small
push button on the side when you lift
the resin halfway out press this and
release the resin bottle and this click
clip holds the bottle above the feeder
on the vat to let any residual resin
drip into the feeding tray part of the
vat and the RS has no such function both
machines are also able to read the RFID
tag inside the resin bottles to
determine what resin type is inserted
but the reflex also has some kind of
sensors that are able to estimate
remaining bottle volume too and as far
as I can tell the RS doesn't have this
volume estimation function and also one
of the other things you'll see on the
outside of the machine is the UI The
Reflex has a much larger UI in fact it's
almost twice the size and whilst the uis
are slightly different the extra space
is mostly used for larger text and more
pictograms The Reflex has its various
control sections listed down the left
hand side for quick access where the RS
has a home screen with pretty much the
same sections as large buttons and
doesn't have the quick access side
buttons but the RS screen is still
decent ly large so I honestly can't see
any valuable reason why they didn't just
stick with a much more similar design
for both units finally getting inside
the machine we can see that both units
have dual linear rails built around an
incredibly solid metal framework and
both use a smooth motion ball screw
where things start to change in more
important ways is with the build volume
The Reflex has a build area of 191x 122
mm and a height of 220 the RS is is
actually larger at 222x 122 with a build
height of 230 it's only a slight
difference but I must admit I have felt
a little restricted at times by the
smaller reflex especially when there are
so many other 10-in printers on the
market of almost equal size the build
plates on both machines differ first of
all these are both steel build plates no
soft aluminum here and it shows where
your money goes when you're buying a hay
gears machine The Reflex plate has
relief holes and some people don't like
these but they're actually good for
reducing the pressure of compressing
resin in those early layers the downside
is that they often get full of resin so
you need to wait a bit after a print for
them to drain out before moving that
print to a cleaning area the RS plate is
flat and has no holes but because the
top is flat you need to scrape off the
residual resin after every print or
again this will drip when transferring
it to a cleaning area each plate
attaches to the Z arm with a compression
latch but the reflex latch is a chunkier
handle where the RS is a cheap lever and
the downward curve actually encourages a
little bit of hand slippage it's just a
bit but it's worth mentioning as both
the reflex and some other printers have
done this better when it comes to the
vat both are chunky and solid and
they're quite similarly shaped though
the reflex vat has compression levers
holding it down whereas the RS has
twirly knobs I prefer the levers both
machines use crystal clear PFA release
film and have a great porw spout on the
front left corner like I have spent this
generation having a war against crappy
porw spouts on Vats this is how you do
it guys exactly like this it pours it
doesn't drip down the side of the bat
this is how porw spout should be done if
there's anything that other brands need
to take note of here it's this on the
opposite corner to the spout each vat
has a protrusion with a post this is
what pushes on the Springs inside hay
Gear's resin bottles allowing the resin
to flow into the tank where this gets
slightly complex is the reflex also has
a mechanical slle gate to allow or stop
resin flowing into the main tank whereas
the RS just stops the flow when the
resin in the vat reaches the neck of the
bottle now honestly I think this is just
a bit of unnecessary over engineering on
the reflex personally and I've had so
many times where the resin level is low
before I go to start a print and instead
of this gate opening automatically and
filling the vat the printer just warns
me resin level too low leaving me to
scream at it well fill it then but
considering voice control is not an
option I resign to just turn the feature
off entirely which forces the gate to
stay in the open position turning this
printer into know better than the RS
when it comes to this feature now the
next difference that's vat related comes
in terms of heating The Reflex comes as
standard with a heated vat and if you
get the pulsing release module there is
a slightly different vat which allows
for air flow between the screen and the
release film but features wise this is
the same as the reflex vat in terms of
heating and I call this out because on
the RS the standard vat you get with it
is not heated but you can purchase a
heated vat and this is powered
separately from the printer itself
there's actually a small unit that comes
with the vat which connects to the back
left corner and this also contains an IR
resin level sensor something else the RS
doesn't have as standard The Reflex does
have dual ir and compactive Center
module in the box when you buy it but
anyway I'm getting further from the
point I'm trying to make in addition to
this RS vat having an integrated heater
this vat is also a requirement if you
upgrade the printer to include the
pulsing release module too as this is
the only one that has the channels for
the pulsing release module's airflow so
whilst you may not need the pulsing
release module or just choose not to
have it if you want the heated VAP in
the RS it's actually called the pulsing
release vat cuz it's compatible with the
pulsing release module but that's the
only heated vat in the RS does that make
sense if not well that's on ha Gear's
marketing and I've tried to explain it
now one feature of the RS which is still
yet to bear fruit for me because I've
only been advised of it but still
haven't seen an integration method is a
screw thread behind the vat which is
intended for mounting a GoPro or similar
camera but even with this in I've had it
confirmed that the printer will not
actually control the device anyway so
it's not like you can generate layer
synchronized time lapses which to me
makes the inclusion of this half measure
kind of redundant honestly they'd have
been better off just not telling me
about it at all now below the bat we've
got our screens forget all that 4K 8K
16k nonsense he gears don't list
printers like that because they're are
proper professional printer manufacturer
with years of experience in industrial
printing they don't need to rely on such
silly metrics to sell printers what they
do advertise however is pixel size and
get this voxel accuracy too yeah they've
measured how accurate a single printed
voxel can be when compared to the size
of the pixels on the display and because
these are both the sharpest printers
I've ever personally used I cannot see a
difference between them on their
absolute sharpest material the pap 10
resin but actual useful specifications
wise that all of Brands really should do
but I'm worried don't know how the
reflex has a pixel size of 33 microns
with an accuracy of plusus 16 microns
the RS has a 30 Micron pixel size with
an accuracy of 15 microns on paper that
makes the RS the better printer but the
difference is a maximum of four microns
that's one
17th the thickness of a human hair
indifference where there is a bigger
difference between them is with the
light source the reflex light source
outputs UV at a wavelength of 385 nanom
where the RS uses a more consumer
printer standard of 405 nanom what this
means practically is that the RS isn't
compatible with several of haar's more
technical resins but I honestly believe
this is more of a software lock and it's
because this 405 nanom light source
isn't able to cure those resins at an
adequate quality level for hay gears who
want to ensure quality in prints from
their machines above anything else so
just to be clear what I'm saying is the
405 nanometer wavelength of the RS
probably would cure those more technical
resins just not at high enough quality
for hay gears to put out to you but
whilst the reflex is compatible with all
hay Gear's current materials the RS only
supports the following P ww10 which is
their water washable material P10 which
is a solid allrounder P P10 which comes
in matte gray purple or beige orange and
I love this stuff for Miniatures and
even did a whole video about it when it
was first released because it was one of
their more affordable ones they also
have P10 which is incredibly High detail
and the one I use for larger Master
prints and finally PA r10 which comes in
two slight different cream colors and
has an incredibly smooth surface that's
wear resistant so this means that
currently their transparent P10 resin
and the wax like castable P10 resin and
the ABS like pa10 resin are all off the
table for the newer RS printer oh and
also their more fun CMYK P10 resin is
also not compatible too but that one
leaves me scratching my head because in
my testing it was quite a basic material
and it's fun to mix the colors to make
your own I actually did a separate video
on color mixing resins for another brand
which well it was fun so check out that
video too but there's a part of me that
hopes that that was just a typo or
accidentally missed in the documents
they sent me check out haar's website
for the latest compatibility information
and when you do please click my
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that but different resin types are
important to different people depending
what they want to create and I feel the
RS is limited Now by not having
transparent or castable resins available
when so many other basic printers do
it's yet another limit on what is
already a somewhat limiting product so I
hope hey gears corrects this and if they
do I expect the correction method will
be to create new resins in time to
replace these ones now both printers are
equipped with a ton of pressure and
temperature sensors everywhere it has
pressure sensors in the plate and in the
vat under the screen and these are used
to detect the pull forces when lifting
resin from the release film and the
printer can dynamically speed up or slow
down to ensure no layers are exceeding
the required Force for successful and
detail prints and on contrast to this it
does the opposite too when the force is
low the printer can speed up which
ensures you get the fastest possible
printing times for a machine of this
type with this release film but with the
priority always being printing success
and quality and because of these sensors
this is also why I believe the printers
compatible with various thirdparty
resins you just can't dial it in the
same way you can with a standard printer
but these sensors ensure that the pull
forces aren't too high which means even
if you put a third party resin in the
printer should dynamically compensate
their lift and retract settings in order
to suit almost any material but as I've
mentioned previously the results May
Vary and it's up to you and the
community to test it please be sure to
check out greedy 3D who's done a ton of
tests like this already now if you don't
know I want to mention it again the
biggest benefit of hay gears and all of
this proprietary stuff is the inapp
support if you have any issues on your
prints you can contact hey gears within
the blueprint app that's the slicer and
directly ask them what to do to improve
your quality even further no more
hunting around Facebook groups or
message boards for misinformation you
get real advice from 3D printing
professionals and if you've used any
other slicer on the market this one does
take some getting used to but the more
you use it and break away from your old
habits like which Mouse button is for
move and which ones for rotate you'll
quickly begin to realize just how much
better this whole workflow is and one
once you nail it it's drag drop rotate
support and print now finally I want to
give another shout out to the phone app
which is non-intrusive and very
informative keep an eye on printer
progress and get handy notifications of
when prints start and finish or any
errors between and the only error I had
was when I accidentally left part of a
model on the build plate which the
machine detected stopped the print and
notified me of instantly but it's also
this app that makes me wish the print
had a built-in camera and light so I
could actually see my prints remotely
and create time lapses I could share
with the world as video shorts which
would lead to free marketing from many
people for hay gears just like we do
with our bamboo printers so come on hey
gears realize that this is free
marketing if you include that one small
feature or even better sell it as an
add-on module that'd be cool yeah but
yeah those are all the key differences
in these machines and a couple of rants
from me and you may be more confused now
than when you started so let's quickly
recap The Reflex has a few benefits on
its side from minor to more important
stuff an internal PSU the resin bottle
drip catch a larger UI a solid build
plate handle rather than a downward
curved lever a vat that Clips in and
comes with a heater and resin level
sensor as standard and I almost added
the SLO gate to this list but as I said
before I think it's over engineered and
in my case doesn't work on auto mode
anyway however and I need to bring it up
because it's hard to show an intrinsic
observation is that the whole reflex
machine just feels like a much more
sturdy product not that the RS is poor
the RS is still Better Built than any
other machine I know out there and I
know as I've said the difference is hard
to show but if you had both and felt
both you'd know what I mean the reflex
feels sturdy
chunkier more like a solid industrial
product and it is hard to show these
things I'll bring it up again cuz I've
mentioned it in both my previous videos
it's like the people who are commenting
on my videos things like hey gears is
overpriced trash when it isn't if you
could see one of these in action and
play with it versus anything else you
have you'd see instantly what I mean so
since I can't show it all I can do is
say it and hope you trust in me enough
to take my word for it these machines
are so well built that they make every
other printer that's come before them
look like toys they are you'll see what
I mean once you actually get one and
compare it to any other machine you've
ever touched previously yeah that's it
but I think the most important reason
right now to pick up the reflex is
obvious it's for supporting all of hay
Gear's current resin types now I've
supposed a future where hay gears make
new resins to replace these incompatible
ones and whilst I do think this is a
sensible thing for them to do I'm basing
this idea on little more than my
personal hope so don't go buying it
right now based on that please check out
the website links in the description and
check out the current resin
compatibility chart depending on when
you're watching this video now when we
look at the newer RS printer well it's a
smaller and lighter machine with a
larger print volume it's got upgradable
internal storage a better lid and the
heated VAP is now an optional accessory
rather than something everyone's charged
for and whilst I personally feel that
all printers should come with heaters
enough people have voiced their opinions
that they don't want to be charged for
something they don't feel they need but
again I still would ask those people to
try a printer with a built-in heater to
see how important consistent temperature
is year round and all hours of the day
and night before being so firm in that
assessment but it is optional now which
is a balance choice I guess I just wish
it was internally powered rather than
needing its own PSU but yeah this is a
larger printing volume and if you want
to split hairs into 17 and 1 12 equal
pieces and count one of them it's higher
quality too and that's measured by the
output printed voxel not just the size
of the pixel on the screen so when it
comes to deciding on buying again this
is an individual's choice now personally
I don't feel like I need the extras The
Reflex offers the transparent resin was
a handy extra which I'm making a
separate video on or maybe I've made it
by now I've filmed it it depends when
this gets edited and when that gets
edited but I do like transparent resin
for some of my projects and I also like
the stronger build quality of the reflex
it feels tougher but since I have them
both I've gone back to the RS far more
frequently lately than the reflex
because more than anything and I know
this is probably more pseudo
psychological than it even really
matters it's just knowing I have the
larger build area available who'd have
thought an extra inch and a half matters
so much I hope this videoos helped you
make a decision on the machines and
understand the differences if it has
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