WEBVTT 00:01.600 --> 00:05.470 The tragic lives of troubled 00:05.470 --> 00:05.480 00:05.480 --> 00:07.670 artists. I mean, I'm a musician. I'm not 00:07.670 --> 00:07.680 00:07.680 --> 00:09.669 a mother. The more insecure I felt, the 00:09.669 --> 00:09.679 00:09.679 --> 00:11.749 more I drink. I'm being recommended 00:11.749 --> 00:11.759 00:11.759 --> 00:13.509 basically to inject heroin cuz it's 00:13.509 --> 00:13.519 00:13.519 --> 00:16.070 cheaper. Amy Winehouse's former husband, 00:16.070 --> 00:16.080 00:16.080 --> 00:18.470 Blake Field Civil, is a complex figure 00:18.470 --> 00:18.480 00:18.480 --> 00:20.790 in her life story. He's been depicted as 00:20.790 --> 00:20.800 00:20.800 --> 00:23.189 a junkie and a hopeless heroin addict, 00:23.189 --> 00:23.199 00:23.199 --> 00:25.109 having confessed to introducing her to 00:25.109 --> 00:25.119 00:25.119 --> 00:27.589 the drug. I've got self-destructive 00:27.589 --> 00:27.599 00:27.599 --> 00:29.750 streak, I guess. You know, I don't want 00:29.750 --> 00:29.760 00:29.760 --> 00:31.189 what's best for me. I want what's worse 00:31.189 --> 00:31.199 00:31.199 --> 00:33.510 for me. I want loads of it. This has led 00:33.510 --> 00:33.520 00:33.520 --> 00:35.510 to many condemning him as responsible 00:35.510 --> 00:35.520 00:35.520 --> 00:38.709 for her untimely death at the age of 27. 00:38.709 --> 00:38.719 00:38.719 --> 00:40.790 That I was a a 20-some year old drug 00:40.790 --> 00:40.800 00:40.800 --> 00:43.030 addict. So, I had absolutely no idea how 00:43.030 --> 00:43.040 00:43.040 --> 00:45.430 to make myself clean, let alone somebody 00:45.430 --> 00:45.440 00:45.440 --> 00:48.389 else. The romance began in 2005 with a 00:48.389 --> 00:48.399 00:48.399 --> 00:50.389 chance encounter in a Camden bar when 00:50.389 --> 00:50.399 00:50.399 --> 00:53.110 Amy was 22. Fielder working as a 00:53.110 --> 00:53.120 00:53.120 --> 00:55.270 nightclub flyer distributor was in 00:55.270 --> 00:55.280 00:55.280 --> 00:57.189 another relationship at the time which 00:57.189 --> 00:57.199 00:57.199 --> 00:59.430 ended quickly after meeting Winehouse. 00:59.430 --> 00:59.440 00:59.440 --> 01:02.150 Their bond deepened rapidly and soon it 01:02.150 --> 01:02.160 01:02.160 --> 01:04.789 became all consuming. 6 months later, 01:04.789 --> 01:04.799 01:04.799 --> 01:06.789 Fielder ended their relationship to Get 01:06.789 --> 01:06.799 01:06.799 --> 01:08.950 Back with his ex. Meanwhile, Winehouse 01:08.950 --> 01:08.960 01:08.960 --> 01:11.270 wrote the iconic breakup album Back to 01:11.270 --> 01:11.280 01:11.280 --> 01:13.030 Black. They say the best songs are born 01:13.030 --> 01:13.040 01:13.040 --> 01:14.630 kind of um disruptive relationships. 01:14.630 --> 01:14.640 01:14.640 --> 01:15.670 They happily married Married Woman. What 01:15.670 --> 01:15.680 01:15.680 --> 01:18.510 can we expect from the songwriting wise? 01:18.510 --> 01:18.520 01:18.520 --> 01:21.109 Uh happy songs. Yeah. Yeah. Happy songs, 01:21.109 --> 01:21.119 01:21.119 --> 01:22.630 Care Bears, theme changes. Having 01:22.630 --> 01:22.640 01:22.640 --> 01:24.230 already suffered from bulimia and 01:24.230 --> 01:24.240 01:24.240 --> 01:26.149 depression, Amy started drinking 01:26.149 --> 01:26.159 01:26.159 --> 01:28.070 heavily. We were definitely too much for 01:28.070 --> 01:28.080 01:28.080 --> 01:30.390 each other, right? Couldn't be together. 01:30.390 --> 01:30.400 01:30.400 --> 01:32.149 Can't be together. So, um, I did 01:32.149 --> 01:32.159 01:32.159 --> 01:33.830 something really messed up. The couple 01:33.830 --> 01:33.840 01:33.840 --> 01:36.069 soon reconciled and surprised everyone 01:36.069 --> 01:36.079 01:36.079 --> 01:37.830 with an impromptu wedding in Miami 01:37.830 --> 01:37.840 01:37.840 --> 01:40.310 Beach, Florida. Shortly after, Fielder 01:40.310 --> 01:40.320 01:40.320 --> 01:42.390 introduced her to crack cocaine and 01:42.390 --> 01:42.400 01:42.400 --> 01:44.870 heroin. And I was smoking it and she 01:44.870 --> 01:44.880 01:44.880 --> 01:48.630 said, "Can I try some?" And uh I was I 01:48.630 --> 01:48.640 01:48.640 --> 01:50.469 was kind of out, you know, I was out my 01:50.469 --> 01:50.479 01:50.479 --> 01:52.069 out my [ __ ] I said, "Yeah, of 01:52.069 --> 01:52.079 01:52.079 --> 01:54.149 course." As their addiction took over, 01:54.149 --> 01:54.159 01:54.159 --> 01:56.630 their relationship descended into chaos. 01:56.630 --> 01:56.640 01:56.640 --> 01:57.910 But yeah, it was seemed like that was 01:57.910 --> 01:57.920 01:57.920 --> 02:00.069 just part of what she did now. I mean, 02:00.069 --> 02:00.079 02:00.079 --> 02:01.590 she was drinking a lot and she was 02:01.590 --> 02:01.600 02:01.600 --> 02:03.270 snorting a lot of cocaine. Yeah. There 02:03.270 --> 02:03.280 02:03.280 --> 02:05.910 were arrests, public altercations, and 02:05.910 --> 02:05.920 02:05.920 --> 02:08.710 stints in rehabilitation facilities. She 02:08.710 --> 02:08.720 02:08.720 --> 02:11.350 was prone to addiction. She could not 02:11.350 --> 02:11.360 02:11.360 --> 02:14.229 stop herself. It's a very cruel beast. 02:14.229 --> 02:14.239 02:14.239 --> 02:16.869 The media scrutiny intensified and Amy 02:16.869 --> 02:16.879 02:16.879 --> 02:19.350 was often chased by the paparazzi. For 02:19.350 --> 02:19.360 02:19.360 --> 02:21.030 me, it's water for ducks back. I don't 02:21.030 --> 02:21.040 02:21.040 --> 02:22.550 care what people say. All news is good 02:22.550 --> 02:22.560 02:22.560 --> 02:25.030 news, you know, and all that. A 02:25.030 --> 02:25.040 02:25.040 --> 02:26.949 notorious photograph depicting the 02:26.949 --> 02:26.959 02:26.959 --> 02:28.710 couple after a drug binge became 02:28.710 --> 02:28.720 02:28.720 --> 02:30.949 synonymous with their relationship. In 02:30.949 --> 02:30.959 02:30.959 --> 02:33.589 2009, they parted ways with Fielder 02:33.589 --> 02:33.599 02:33.599 --> 02:35.589 claiming it was to free Winehouse from 02:35.589 --> 02:35.599 02:35.599 --> 02:37.830 the scrutiny of the tabloids and silence 02:37.830 --> 02:37.840 02:37.840 --> 02:39.430 her father's accusations of 02:39.430 --> 02:39.440 02:39.440 --> 02:41.350 manipulation. You know, you can't 02:41.350 --> 02:41.360 02:41.360 --> 02:44.869 sustain love for each other when you're 02:44.869 --> 02:44.879 02:44.879 --> 02:46.630 constantly [ __ ] fighting over a bit 02:46.630 --> 02:46.640 02:46.640 --> 02:48.790 of gear. Fielder maintained an on andoff 02:48.790 --> 02:48.800 02:48.800 --> 02:50.630 relationship with Wine House until his 02:50.630 --> 02:50.640 02:50.640 --> 02:53.110 incarceration for burglary and firearm 02:53.110 --> 02:53.120 02:53.120 --> 02:54.670 possession. We loved each other 02:54.670 --> 02:54.680 02:54.680 --> 02:57.910 intensely and probably, you know, in a 02:57.910 --> 02:57.920 02:57.920 --> 03:00.390 really really unhealthy codependent way. 03:00.390 --> 03:00.400 03:00.400 --> 03:02.070 However, by the time Fielder was 03:02.070 --> 03:02.080 03:02.080 --> 03:04.149 released from prison, Winehouse was dead 03:04.149 --> 03:04.159 03:04.159 --> 03:06.390 from alcohol poisoning. You got to come 03:06.390 --> 03:06.400 03:06.400 --> 03:09.430 home. I said, "Is she dead?" He said, 03:09.430 --> 03:09.440 03:09.440 --> 03:11.350 "Yeah, I'm his dead." Fielder was banned 03:11.350 --> 03:11.360 03:11.360 --> 03:13.270 from the funeral by her family who 03:13.270 --> 03:13.280 03:13.280 --> 03:15.270 blamed him for enabling Wine House's 03:15.270 --> 03:15.280 03:15.280 --> 03:16.710 drug use. What would you have done 03:16.710 --> 03:16.720 03:16.720 --> 03:18.309 differently? Blake, would it have been 03:18.309 --> 03:18.319 03:18.319 --> 03:20.070 that moment? Almost everything. Yeah. 03:20.070 --> 03:20.080 03:20.080 --> 03:21.509 I'm the only person that's taken any 03:21.509 --> 03:21.519 03:21.519 --> 03:22.869 responsibility. People don't realize 03:22.869 --> 03:22.879 03:22.879 --> 03:24.710 that Amy didn't do anything Amy didn't 03:24.710 --> 03:24.720 03:24.720 --> 03:26.790 want to do. Mitch Winehouse, Amy's 03:26.790 --> 03:26.800 03:26.800 --> 03:28.710 father, had previously accused Fielder 03:28.710 --> 03:28.720 03:28.720 --> 03:31.430 of killing his daughter. His way of 03:31.430 --> 03:31.440 03:31.440 --> 03:33.509 showing how much he loved her was to at, 03:33.509 --> 03:33.519 03:33.519 --> 03:36.149 in his own words, he introduced her to 03:36.149 --> 03:36.159 03:36.159 --> 03:37.990 class A drugs. However, Janice 03:37.990 --> 03:38.000 03:38.000 --> 03:39.990 Winehouse, Amy's mother, has since 03:39.990 --> 03:40.000 03:40.000 --> 03:41.990 defended Fielder, describing their love 03:41.990 --> 03:42.000 03:42.000 --> 03:44.789 as complicated yet intimate and genuine. 03:44.789 --> 03:44.799 03:44.799 --> 03:47.110 But without her, how different our lives 03:47.110 --> 03:47.120 03:47.120 --> 03:48.869 would have been. It'd be amazing. 03:48.869 --> 03:48.879 03:48.879 --> 03:50.789 Fielder has largely remained in the 03:50.789 --> 03:50.799 03:50.799 --> 03:53.190 shadows, while his love story with Amy 03:53.190 --> 03:53.200 03:53.200 --> 03:56.949 continues to shine in the spotlight. 03:56.949 --> 03:56.959 03:56.959 --> 04:00.710 Through the window, by the window, that 04:00.710 --> 04:00.720 04:00.720 --> 04:03.789 is where I'll be 04:03.789 --> 04:03.799 04:03.799 --> 04:06.630 with. Tiny Tim was the unconventional 04:06.630 --> 04:06.640 04:06.640 --> 04:09.270 artist behind this eerie tune. But did 04:09.270 --> 04:09.280 04:09.280 --> 04:11.190 you know he died on stage after 04:11.190 --> 04:11.200 04:11.200 --> 04:12.110 performing 04:12.110 --> 04:12.120 04:12.120 --> 04:16.550 it? You hear coughing during the show? 04:16.550 --> 04:16.560 04:16.560 --> 04:18.830 Well, it's because 04:18.830 --> 04:18.840 04:18.840 --> 04:22.550 uh you know, 04:22.550 --> 04:22.560 04:22.560 --> 04:24.710 Tiny Tim was known for his distinctive 04:24.710 --> 04:24.720 04:24.720 --> 04:27.510 singing. ukulele playing an eccentric 04:27.510 --> 04:27.520 04:27.520 --> 04:30.390 persona. Oh, look up in the sky. The 04:30.390 --> 04:30.400 04:30.400 --> 04:32.710 birds are coming. I've got to see a 04:32.710 --> 04:32.720 04:32.720 --> 04:34.310 doctor. I've got to see a doctor. 04:34.310 --> 04:34.320 04:34.320 --> 04:36.230 There's something wrong with me. What 04:36.230 --> 04:36.240 04:36.240 --> 04:38.310 can it be? 04:38.310 --> 04:38.320 04:38.320 --> 04:40.870 Tiny Tim's rise to fame was swift. When 04:40.870 --> 04:40.880 04:40.880 --> 04:42.710 anyone ever wanted me to sing, I just 04:42.710 --> 04:42.720 04:42.720 --> 04:44.310 sang. Whenever you have any talent, I 04:44.310 --> 04:44.320 04:44.320 --> 04:46.430 just say use it. Whatever it may be. In 04:46.430 --> 04:46.440 04:46.440 --> 04:49.510 1968, he released his debut album, God 04:49.510 --> 04:49.520 04:49.520 --> 04:51.990 Bless Tiny Tim, which featured the hit 04:51.990 --> 04:52.000 04:52.000 --> 04:55.640 single, Tiptoe Through the Tulips. 04:55.640 --> 04:55.650 04:55.650 --> 05:01.430 [Music] 05:01.430 --> 05:01.440 05:01.440 --> 05:03.350 The song reached number 17 on the 05:03.350 --> 05:03.360 05:03.360 --> 05:06.070 Billboard chart, showcasing Tiny Tim's 05:06.070 --> 05:06.080 05:06.080 --> 05:08.310 signature high-pitched voice, which was 05:08.310 --> 05:08.320 05:08.320 --> 05:10.629 polarizing at the time. Although many 05:10.629 --> 05:10.639 05:10.639 --> 05:12.629 found him strange and made a mockery of 05:12.629 --> 05:12.639 05:12.639 --> 05:15.189 him, he was undeniably captivating, and 05:15.189 --> 05:15.199 05:15.199 --> 05:17.430 people wanted more. 05:17.430 --> 05:17.440 05:17.440 --> 05:20.110 Oh, one eye is 05:20.110 --> 05:20.120 05:20.120 --> 05:22.029 brown, the other 05:22.029 --> 05:22.039 05:22.039 --> 05:26.070 eye is brown. His success continued with 05:26.070 --> 05:26.080 05:26.080 --> 05:28.070 his second album, which earned him a 05:28.070 --> 05:28.080 05:28.080 --> 05:32.070 Grammy nomination. Goodness gracious. 05:32.070 --> 05:32.080 05:32.080 --> 05:34.070 In addition to his music career, Tiny 05:34.070 --> 05:34.080 05:34.080 --> 05:36.230 Tim was a familiar face on television. 05:36.230 --> 05:36.240 05:36.240 --> 05:38.710 Are you married? 05:38.710 --> 05:38.720 05:38.720 --> 05:42.870 Put that down as a no. His marriage to 05:42.870 --> 05:42.880 05:42.880 --> 05:44.950 Miss Vicki, broadcast on the Tonight 05:44.950 --> 05:44.960 05:44.960 --> 05:47.189 Show, starring Johnny Carson, drew an 05:47.189 --> 05:47.199 05:47.199 --> 05:50.510 audience of over 40 million people. 05:50.510 --> 05:50.520 05:50.520 --> 05:57.650 Won't you come and love me? Oh, pretty. 05:57.650 --> 05:57.660 05:57.660 --> 06:00.550 [Music] 06:00.550 --> 06:00.560 06:00.560 --> 06:03.270 She was just 17 at the time and he was 06:03.270 --> 06:03.280 06:03.280 --> 06:06.550 twice her age. 06:06.550 --> 06:06.560 06:06.560 --> 06:10.469 I'm your special treat. Why? because you 06:10.469 --> 06:10.479 06:10.479 --> 06:13.270 love me. 06:13.270 --> 06:13.280 06:13.280 --> 06:15.110 However, their marriage didn't last long 06:15.110 --> 06:15.120 06:15.120 --> 06:16.870 and neither did his moment in the 06:16.870 --> 06:16.880 06:16.880 --> 06:18.790 spotlight. His later records didn't 06:18.790 --> 06:18.800 06:18.800 --> 06:21.110 achieve the same level of success as his 06:21.110 --> 06:21.120 06:21.120 --> 06:23.189 early work, and he eventually resorted 06:23.189 --> 06:23.199 06:23.199 --> 06:25.670 to performing at the circus. Tiny Tim 06:25.670 --> 06:25.680 06:25.680 --> 06:27.749 spent years trying to make a comeback, 06:27.749 --> 06:27.759 06:27.759 --> 06:30.390 performing until his final breath. At 06:30.390 --> 06:30.400 06:30.400 --> 06:33.029 the age of 64, doctors strongly advised 06:33.029 --> 06:33.039 06:33.039 --> 06:35.029 him not to perform again after he 06:35.029 --> 06:35.039 06:35.039 --> 06:37.189 suffered a non-fatal heart attack during 06:37.189 --> 06:37.199 06:37.199 --> 06:39.430 a ukulele festival. Despite the 06:39.430 --> 06:39.440 06:39.440 --> 06:41.749 warnings, Tiny Tim chose to return to 06:41.749 --> 06:41.759 06:41.759 --> 06:43.790 the stage just two months later in 06:43.790 --> 06:43.800 06:43.800 --> 06:45.670 Minneapolis. Although he was feeling 06:45.670 --> 06:45.680 06:45.680 --> 06:48.230 unwell, he insisted on performing so as 06:48.230 --> 06:48.240 06:48.240 --> 06:51.350 not to disappoint his fans. Give me all 06:51.350 --> 06:51.360 06:51.360 --> 06:53.990 you've got till I scream, "I've had 06:53.990 --> 06:54.000 06:54.000 --> 06:56.790 enough." Determined to give his best, 06:56.790 --> 06:56.800 06:56.800 --> 06:59.680 Tiny Tim began his performance. 06:59.680 --> 06:59.690 06:59.690 --> 07:04.870 [Music] 07:04.870 --> 07:04.880 07:04.880 --> 07:07.110 During the final song, he suffered 07:07.110 --> 07:07.120 07:07.120 --> 07:09.909 another heart attack. this time fatal. 07:09.909 --> 07:09.919 07:09.919 --> 07:12.150 He was quickly taken to a seat where he 07:12.150 --> 07:12.160 07:12.160 --> 07:14.550 collapsed and lost consciousness, never 07:14.550 --> 07:14.560 07:14.560 --> 07:17.270 to wake up. This performance became 07:17.270 --> 07:17.280 07:17.280 --> 07:19.909 known as the epilepsy dance due to Ian 07:19.909 --> 07:19.919 07:19.919 --> 07:22.390 Curtis's twitchy possessed movements on 07:22.390 --> 07:22.400 07:22.400 --> 07:24.150 stage. I I think most people's vision of 07:24.150 --> 07:24.160 07:24.160 --> 07:26.870 Joy Division is entirely colored by the 07:26.870 --> 07:26.880 07:26.880 --> 07:29.110 death of Ian Curtis. Curtis, the lead 07:29.110 --> 07:29.120 07:29.120 --> 07:31.270 singer of the English postpunk band Joy 07:31.270 --> 07:31.280 07:31.280 --> 07:33.990 Division, died by suicide in 1980 at 07:33.990 --> 07:34.000 07:34.000 --> 07:37.589 just 23 years old. Ian's illness was 07:37.589 --> 07:37.599 07:37.599 --> 07:39.670 degenerative and it was getting worse. 07:39.670 --> 07:39.680 07:39.680 --> 07:41.990 He led a troubled life marked by severe 07:41.990 --> 07:42.000 07:42.000 --> 07:46.350 epilepsy and 07:46.350 --> 07:46.360 07:46.360 --> 07:48.629 depression. Though his stage presence 07:48.629 --> 07:48.639 07:48.639 --> 07:50.390 sometimes gave the impression of drug 07:50.390 --> 07:50.400 07:50.400 --> 07:53.110 use or an actual epileptic seizure, Ian 07:53.110 --> 07:53.120 07:53.120 --> 07:55.430 Curtis was simply losing himself in the 07:55.430 --> 07:55.440 07:55.440 --> 07:59.430 music. 07:59.430 --> 07:59.440 07:59.440 --> 08:02.070 flash through the radio. His epilepsy 08:02.070 --> 08:02.080 08:02.080 --> 08:04.710 diagnosis in 1978 brought immense 08:04.710 --> 08:04.720 08:04.720 --> 08:07.110 challenges, severe seizures, extreme 08:07.110 --> 08:07.120 08:07.120 --> 08:09.350 mood swings, and emotional detachment 08:09.350 --> 08:09.360 08:09.360 --> 08:11.830 caused by anti-epileptic medications. 08:11.830 --> 08:11.840 08:11.840 --> 08:13.110 The doctor said to him, "Right, okay, 08:13.110 --> 08:13.120 08:13.120 --> 08:14.390 you've got epilepsy, which you need to 08:14.390 --> 08:14.400 08:14.400 --> 08:16.230 take it easy. Don't get yourself worked 08:16.230 --> 08:16.240 08:16.240 --> 08:18.550 up. Don't drink." What do we do? We go 08:18.550 --> 08:18.560 08:18.560 --> 08:20.869 on tour England for 4 weeks in the back 08:20.869 --> 08:20.879 08:20.879 --> 08:22.710 of a transit van. The condition became 08:22.710 --> 08:22.720 08:22.720 --> 08:24.710 so debilitating that he attempted 08:24.710 --> 08:24.720 08:24.720 --> 08:27.110 suicide multiple times. Curtis's 08:27.110 --> 08:27.120 08:27.120 --> 08:29.270 personal life also fell apart as he and 08:29.270 --> 08:29.280 08:29.280 --> 08:31.350 his wife Deborah were close to divorcing 08:31.350 --> 08:31.360 08:31.360 --> 08:32.949 because of his affair with a Belgian 08:32.949 --> 08:32.959 08:32.959 --> 08:35.269 journalist. What can you say to someone 08:35.269 --> 08:35.279 08:35.279 --> 08:37.029 when they've gone? Well, I felt very 08:37.029 --> 08:37.039 08:37.039 --> 08:38.790 angry, but there's no point. There's 08:38.790 --> 08:38.800 08:38.800 --> 08:40.870 nowhere for the anger to go. Curtis kept 08:40.870 --> 08:40.880 08:40.880 --> 08:43.029 his condition hidden from his bandmates 08:43.029 --> 08:43.039 08:43.039 --> 08:45.750 until December 1978 when he suffered a 08:45.750 --> 08:45.760 08:45.760 --> 08:47.590 major seizure in their tour van 08:47.590 --> 08:47.600 08:47.600 --> 08:50.310 following a London gig. Nobody realized 08:50.310 --> 08:50.320 08:50.320 --> 08:52.389 how serious it was. I think we were all 08:52.389 --> 08:52.399 08:52.399 --> 08:55.269 too busy having a good time. He wanted 08:55.269 --> 08:55.279 08:55.279 --> 08:58.630 us to achieve what he felt we deserved 08:58.630 --> 08:58.640 08:58.640 --> 09:01.190 and he hid it and that that was the 09:01.190 --> 09:01.200 09:01.200 --> 09:03.190 problem. Ultimately, it all became too 09:03.190 --> 09:03.200 09:03.200 --> 09:05.190 much to bear. He said that I feel feel 09:05.190 --> 09:05.200 09:05.200 --> 09:07.910 as if I'm I'm swirling down into a dark 09:07.910 --> 09:07.920 09:07.920 --> 09:10.389 void. I remember him saying the birds 09:10.389 --> 09:10.399 09:10.399 --> 09:12.870 were singing when he finished the letter 09:12.870 --> 09:12.880 09:12.880 --> 09:15.750 and well he he must have killed himself 09:15.750 --> 09:15.760 09:15.760 --> 09:18.230 in in the early hours. On May the 18th, 09:18.230 --> 09:18.240 09:18.240 --> 09:20.949 1980, just 2 days before Joy Division's 09:20.949 --> 09:20.959 09:20.959 --> 09:23.430 first US tour, Curtis hanged himself. 09:23.430 --> 09:23.440 09:23.440 --> 09:25.670 was a death based on a on a a real and 09:25.670 --> 09:25.680 09:25.680 --> 09:27.509 common trauma and therefore it was a 09:27.509 --> 09:27.519 09:27.519 --> 09:30.150 very personal and very human suicide. 09:30.150 --> 09:30.160 09:30.160 --> 09:32.310 Joy Division was one of four hugely 09:32.310 --> 09:32.320 09:32.320 --> 09:35.030 influential British postpunk bands. 09:35.030 --> 09:35.040 09:35.040 --> 09:37.030 Their single love will tear us apart 09:37.030 --> 09:37.040 09:37.040 --> 09:39.670 made them cult heroes in the UK and Ian 09:39.670 --> 09:39.680 09:39.680 --> 09:42.590 Curtis a post punk 09:42.590 --> 09:42.600 09:42.600 --> 09:45.710 icon. Love will tear us 09:45.710 --> 09:45.720 09:45.720 --> 09:49.030 aart again. In the wake of Curtis's 09:49.030 --> 09:49.040 09:49.040 --> 09:51.190 death, Joy Division surviving members 09:51.190 --> 09:51.200 09:51.200 --> 09:53.350 reformed as New Order, a group that 09:53.350 --> 09:53.360 09:53.360 --> 09:55.430 would go on to define the sound of the 09:55.430 --> 09:55.440 09:55.440 --> 09:58.900 1980s. 09:58.900 --> 09:58.910 09:58.910 --> 10:02.870 [Music] 10:02.870 --> 10:02.880 10:02.880 --> 10:05.590 Love affairs, drugfueled scandals, and 10:05.590 --> 10:05.600 10:05.600 --> 10:08.470 some of the greatest hits of the 1960s 10:08.470 --> 10:08.480 10:08.480 --> 10:10.790 define the Mumas and the Papers. John 10:10.790 --> 10:10.800 10:10.800 --> 10:13.110 Phillips, the leading man and primary 10:13.110 --> 10:13.120 10:13.120 --> 10:14.949 songwriter of the group, lived a 10:14.949 --> 10:14.959 10:14.959 --> 10:17.030 tumultuous personal and professional 10:17.030 --> 10:17.040 10:17.040 --> 10:18.870 life. The thing about it is that my dad 10:18.870 --> 10:18.880 10:18.880 --> 10:22.550 was a a tortured genius. He left his 10:22.550 --> 10:22.560 10:22.560 --> 10:24.710 first wife to marry Michelle Phillips 10:24.710 --> 10:24.720 10:24.720 --> 10:27.110 and their union led to the creation of 10:27.110 --> 10:27.120 10:27.120 --> 10:29.509 the iconic band. However, behind the 10:29.509 --> 10:29.519 10:29.519 --> 10:32.630 scenes, chaos ensued. And John is having 10:32.630 --> 10:32.640 10:32.640 --> 10:35.269 some emotional problems right now. 10:35.269 --> 10:35.279 10:35.279 --> 10:37.590 Michelle, a believer in free love, 10:37.590 --> 10:37.600 10:37.600 --> 10:39.670 engaged in numerous affairs after 10:39.670 --> 10:39.680 10:39.680 --> 10:41.430 marrying John. And then, of course, it 10:41.430 --> 10:41.440 10:41.440 --> 10:42.710 didn't help that Denny and I had an 10:42.710 --> 10:42.720 10:42.720 --> 10:45.990 affair. And uh that kind of uh upset 10:45.990 --> 10:46.000 10:46.000 --> 10:49.509 everybody. Most notably, she began an 10:49.509 --> 10:49.519 10:49.519 --> 10:51.590 affair with Denny Docky, the group's 10:51.590 --> 10:51.600 10:51.600 --> 10:53.829 other male member, which caused tension 10:53.829 --> 10:53.839 10:53.839 --> 10:57.750 within the band. 10:57.750 --> 10:57.760 10:57.760 --> 10:59.509 LA. 10:59.509 --> 10:59.519 10:59.519 --> 11:02.069 The situation deeply affected everyone 11:02.069 --> 11:02.079 11:02.079 --> 11:04.870 involved, particularly mama Cass Elliot, 11:04.870 --> 11:04.880 11:04.880 --> 11:07.509 who had unrequited feelings for Denny. I 11:07.509 --> 11:07.519 11:07.519 --> 11:09.670 betrayed John and I betrayed Cass, my 11:09.670 --> 11:09.680 11:09.680 --> 11:12.470 best friend, and Denny betrayed his best 11:12.470 --> 11:12.480 11:12.480 --> 11:14.389 friend, and he betrayed Cass, who was in 11:14.389 --> 11:14.399 11:14.399 --> 11:17.430 love with him, and it was a very messy. 11:17.430 --> 11:17.440 11:17.440 --> 11:19.829 The strain eventually proved too much, 11:19.829 --> 11:19.839 11:19.839 --> 11:23.030 and John and Michelle divorced in 1969. 11:23.030 --> 11:23.040 11:23.040 --> 11:25.509 John then spiraled into a haze of drug 11:25.509 --> 11:25.519 11:25.519 --> 11:28.069 and alcohol abuse that ended only after 11:28.069 --> 11:28.079 11:28.079 --> 11:30.710 he served a prison sentence. Yeah. Well, 11:30.710 --> 11:30.720 11:30.720 --> 11:33.190 it turns out that uh you know, finally 11:33.190 --> 11:33.200 11:33.200 --> 11:35.910 uh the doctor who was treating me said 11:35.910 --> 11:35.920 11:35.920 --> 11:38.150 uh none of this will stop until uh you 11:38.150 --> 11:38.160 11:38.160 --> 11:40.949 stop cuz everyone's trying to emulate 11:40.949 --> 11:40.959 11:40.959 --> 11:42.870 your behavior to get your attention. 11:42.870 --> 11:42.880 11:42.880 --> 11:45.030 Years of substance abuse took a severe 11:45.030 --> 11:45.040 11:45.040 --> 11:47.190 toll on his health and he passed away at 11:47.190 --> 11:47.200 11:47.200 --> 11:49.750 the age of 65 from heart failure. I 11:49.750 --> 11:49.760 11:49.760 --> 11:51.430 believe that he was a man who was 11:51.430 --> 11:51.440 11:51.440 --> 11:53.269 ravaged by drugs and alcohol. Following 11:53.269 --> 11:53.279 11:53.279 --> 11:55.829 his death, his eldest daughter, McKenzie 11:55.829 --> 11:55.839 11:55.839 --> 11:58.389 Phillips, made a shocking allegation. 11:58.389 --> 11:58.399 11:58.399 --> 12:00.389 She claimed to have endured a decadel 12:00.389 --> 12:00.399 12:00.399 --> 12:03.030 long drugfueled incestuous relationship 12:03.030 --> 12:03.040 12:03.040 --> 12:05.110 with her father. My relationship with my 12:05.110 --> 12:05.120 12:05.120 --> 12:06.870 father was not consensual. What I've 12:06.870 --> 12:06.880 12:06.880 --> 12:08.470 learned is that there is no such thing 12:08.470 --> 12:08.480 12:08.480 --> 12:10.470 as consensual incest. According to 12:10.470 --> 12:10.480 12:10.480 --> 12:13.030 McKenzie, the relationship ended only 12:13.030 --> 12:13.040 12:13.040 --> 12:15.190 after she became pregnant and underwent 12:15.190 --> 12:15.200 12:15.200 --> 12:17.829 an abortion arranged by John. I loved my 12:17.829 --> 12:17.839 12:17.839 --> 12:20.069 father. You know, I absolutely loved my 12:20.069 --> 12:20.079 12:20.079 --> 12:22.790 father, but he wasn't a good man. She 12:22.790 --> 12:22.800 12:22.800 --> 12:24.949 was able to regain her sobriety and 12:24.949 --> 12:24.959 12:24.959 --> 12:28.150 rebuild her life only after 11 stints in 12:28.150 --> 12:28.160 12:28.160 --> 12:31.910 rehab. Me forgiving my father allowed me 12:31.910 --> 12:31.920 12:31.920 --> 12:34.389 to have freedom. Though her accusations 12:34.389 --> 12:34.399 12:34.399 --> 12:36.949 were met with skepticism, they cast a 12:36.949 --> 12:36.959 12:36.959 --> 12:39.509 dark shadow over John's legacy. It was 12:39.509 --> 12:39.519 12:39.519 --> 12:41.430 over and it was too late to say anything 12:41.430 --> 12:41.440 12:41.440 --> 12:42.710 about it. You know, seems to be the 12:42.710 --> 12:42.720 12:42.720 --> 12:44.550 story of my life. you know that I don't 12:44.550 --> 12:44.560 12:44.560 --> 12:46.389 realize how important things were to me 12:46.389 --> 12:46.399 12:46.399 --> 12:48.710 until there it's too late to make amends 12:48.710 --> 12:48.720 12:48.720 --> 12:51.110 really. Cass Elliot, affectionately 12:51.110 --> 12:51.120 12:51.120 --> 12:53.430 known as Mama Cass, was the heart and 12:53.430 --> 12:53.440 12:53.440 --> 12:55.509 soul of the group. Everybody knows I'm 12:55.509 --> 12:55.519 12:55.519 --> 12:57.829 Mama Cass. With her radiant smile, 12:57.829 --> 12:57.839 12:57.839 --> 13:00.470 magnetic personality, and unforgettable 13:00.470 --> 13:00.480 13:00.480 --> 13:04.629 vocals, she became a powerhouse. Dream a 13:04.629 --> 13:04.639 13:04.639 --> 13:08.870 little dream of me. When Denny suggested 13:08.870 --> 13:08.880 13:08.880 --> 13:11.750 adding Cass to the group in 1965, John 13:11.750 --> 13:11.760 13:11.760 --> 13:14.230 initially resisted, believing her weight 13:14.230 --> 13:14.240 13:14.240 --> 13:16.470 might harm their image. Despite her 13:16.470 --> 13:16.480 13:16.480 --> 13:18.870 success, she was constantly fat shamed 13:18.870 --> 13:18.880 13:18.880 --> 13:21.110 and desperate to lose weight. I hadn't 13:21.110 --> 13:21.120 13:21.120 --> 13:22.629 been able to eat anything. Ordinarily, I 13:22.629 --> 13:22.639 13:22.639 --> 13:23.670 know you wouldn't think that was such a 13:23.670 --> 13:23.680 13:23.680 --> 13:25.829 hardship for me. Though she managed to 13:25.829 --> 13:25.839 13:25.839 --> 13:29.190 shed 100 lb from her original 300 lb 13:29.190 --> 13:29.200 13:29.200 --> 13:31.629 frame, this drastic weight loss caused 13:31.629 --> 13:31.639 13:31.639 --> 13:34.150 complications including a stomach ulcer 13:34.150 --> 13:34.160 13:34.160 --> 13:36.550 and throat issues. My blood sugar level 13:36.550 --> 13:36.560 13:36.560 --> 13:38.069 dropped or something and I just sort of 13:38.069 --> 13:38.079 13:38.079 --> 13:40.870 tipped over. Tragically, she died in her 13:40.870 --> 13:40.880 13:40.880 --> 13:43.030 sleep of a heart attack at the age of 13:43.030 --> 13:43.040 13:43.040 --> 13:45.829 32. She died of her own weight. Her 13:45.829 --> 13:45.839 13:45.839 --> 13:48.550 involuntary u muscle system just stopped 13:48.550 --> 13:48.560 13:48.560 --> 13:50.629 going and she stopped breathing. Despite 13:50.629 --> 13:50.639 13:50.639 --> 13:52.870 their complex legacy, the music of the 13:52.870 --> 13:52.880 13:52.880 --> 13:55.230 Mumas and the Papers will remain 13:55.230 --> 13:55.240 13:55.240 --> 13:57.990 unforgettable. Singer Duffy was once a 13:57.990 --> 13:58.000 13:58.000 --> 14:00.310 shining star until she disappeared from 14:00.310 --> 14:00.320 14:00.320 --> 14:02.870 the spotlight without explanation. Right 14:02.870 --> 14:02.880 14:02.880 --> 14:05.670 now, I'm maybe too afraid. Over a decade 14:05.670 --> 14:05.680 14:05.680 --> 14:08.069 later, she opened up about a 4-week 14:08.069 --> 14:08.079 14:08.079 --> 14:10.389 ordeal during which she says she was 14:10.389 --> 14:10.399 14:10.399 --> 14:12.949 drugged and taken to a foreign country. 14:12.949 --> 14:12.959 14:12.959 --> 14:16.389 I love you. 14:16.389 --> 14:16.399 14:16.399 --> 14:18.230 In her detailed written account of the 14:18.230 --> 14:18.240 14:18.240 --> 14:20.310 ordeal, she doesn't name her attacker, 14:20.310 --> 14:20.320 14:20.320 --> 14:22.470 but reveals that the experience forced 14:22.470 --> 14:22.480 14:22.480 --> 14:24.710 her into hiding. You can be whatever you 14:24.710 --> 14:24.720 14:24.720 --> 14:26.470 want to be. You can choose whichever 14:26.470 --> 14:26.480 14:26.480 --> 14:29.110 life you choose. Duffy had the UK's 14:29.110 --> 14:29.120 14:29.120 --> 14:32.310 bestselling album of 2008 and won three 14:32.310 --> 14:32.320 14:32.320 --> 14:34.389 Brit Awards and a Grammy, but she 14:34.389 --> 14:34.399 14:34.399 --> 14:36.470 virtually vanished after releasing her 14:36.470 --> 14:36.480 14:36.480 --> 14:39.590 second album in 2010. She's Welsh. I'm 14:39.590 --> 14:39.600 14:39.600 --> 14:41.750 Welsh, you know, and she's she's a, you 14:41.750 --> 14:41.760 14:41.760 --> 14:43.590 know, really really good young singer 14:43.590 --> 14:43.600 14:43.600 --> 14:45.430 and a and a great songwriter. She 14:45.430 --> 14:45.440 14:45.440 --> 14:47.750 recounted how the ordeal began on her 14:47.750 --> 14:47.760 14:47.760 --> 14:49.670 birthday when she was drugged and kept 14:49.670 --> 14:49.680 14:49.680 --> 14:51.110 under the influence while being 14:51.110 --> 14:51.120 14:51.120 --> 14:53.269 transported to a foreign country where 14:53.269 --> 14:53.279 14:53.279 --> 14:55.829 she remained for the next 4 weeks. I'm 14:55.829 --> 14:55.839 14:55.839 --> 14:57.430 going to keep it together for this one. 14:57.430 --> 14:57.440 14:57.440 --> 14:59.110 According to Duffy, she had no 14:59.110 --> 14:59.120 14:59.120 --> 15:01.110 recollection of boarding the plane and 15:01.110 --> 15:01.120 15:01.120 --> 15:03.430 only regained awareness in the back of a 15:03.430 --> 15:03.440 15:03.440 --> 15:06.230 moving vehicle. You got me begging you 15:06.230 --> 15:06.240 15:06.240 --> 15:08.870 for mercy. 15:08.870 --> 15:08.880 15:08.880 --> 15:10.870 She said she was placed in a hotel room 15:10.870 --> 15:10.880 15:10.880 --> 15:12.870 where her attacker later returned and 15:12.870 --> 15:12.880 15:12.880 --> 15:14.550 assaulted her. There's a version of 15:14.550 --> 15:14.560 15:14.560 --> 15:16.710 myself out there that's full of fear 15:16.710 --> 15:16.720 15:16.720 --> 15:18.310 that doesn't know what she wants. 15:18.310 --> 15:18.320 15:18.320 --> 15:19.710 There's a version out there that's 15:19.710 --> 15:19.720 15:19.720 --> 15:21.990 decided to not allow myself to be 15:21.990 --> 15:22.000 15:22.000 --> 15:23.910 fearful. She explained that she flew 15:23.910 --> 15:23.920 15:23.920 --> 15:25.990 back to the UK with the accused, but 15:25.990 --> 15:26.000 15:26.000 --> 15:27.750 immediately felt that her life was in 15:27.750 --> 15:27.760 15:27.760 --> 15:30.150 danger as he made threats to kill her. 15:30.150 --> 15:30.160 15:30.160 --> 15:31.590 Because of this, she believed it was 15:31.590 --> 15:31.600 15:31.600 --> 15:34.150 unsafe to go to the police. Do any of us 15:34.150 --> 15:34.160 15:34.160 --> 15:35.509 really look at our lives? Don't we just 15:35.509 --> 15:35.519 15:35.519 --> 15:37.990 carry on? Don't we just not look back? 15:37.990 --> 15:38.000 15:38.000 --> 15:40.389 Duffy later confided in two female 15:40.389 --> 15:40.399 15:40.399 --> 15:42.710 officers. First, when someone attempted 15:42.710 --> 15:42.720 15:42.720 --> 15:44.470 to blackmail her with information about 15:44.470 --> 15:44.480 15:44.480 --> 15:46.870 the attack, and again when three men 15:46.870 --> 15:46.880 15:46.880 --> 15:49.350 tried to break into her home. She also 15:49.350 --> 15:49.360 15:49.360 --> 15:51.189 admitted to having considered changing 15:51.189 --> 15:51.199 15:51.199 --> 15:53.189 her name and appearance and disappearing 15:53.189 --> 15:53.199 15:53.199 --> 15:55.350 to another country altogether. Being 15:55.350 --> 15:55.360 15:55.360 --> 15:58.230 young, feeling trapped, wanting to let 15:58.230 --> 15:58.240 15:58.240 --> 16:00.150 loose. I think Duffy feared that 16:00.150 --> 16:00.160 16:00.160 --> 16:02.069 revealing the truth would emotionally 16:02.069 --> 16:02.079 16:02.079 --> 16:04.310 destroy her life. yet hiding it was 16:04.310 --> 16:04.320 16:04.320 --> 16:06.949 causing her even greater harm. For me, 16:06.949 --> 16:06.959 16:06.959 --> 16:09.350 you know, I don't really know where I'm 16:09.350 --> 16:09.360 16:09.360 --> 16:11.829 at. Ultimately, she stated that she was 16:11.829 --> 16:11.839 16:11.839 --> 16:13.670 now ready to leave the past behind, 16:13.670 --> 16:13.680 16:13.680 --> 16:15.590 hoping that people would no longer ask 16:15.590 --> 16:15.600 16:15.600 --> 16:17.509 what had happened to her because now 16:17.509 --> 16:17.519 16:17.519 --> 16:19.990 they knew. I can excuse myself and 16:19.990 --> 16:20.000 16:20.000 --> 16:21.590 saying I was still learning about other 16:21.590 --> 16:21.600 16:21.600 --> 16:23.910 things in life. She ended by expressing 16:23.910 --> 16:23.920 16:23.920 --> 16:27.269 that she finally felt free. What do you 16:27.269 --> 16:27.279 16:27.279 --> 16:29.710 think? Let us know in the comments. 16:29.710 --> 16:29.720 16:29.720 --> 16:32.799 [Music]