WEBVTT 00:17.920 --> 00:25.920 Welcome to Geeks Corner. I'm Mr. Daps. I'm Katie. And did you know that incoming Disney CEO Josh Dearo started his Disney career 00:25.920 --> 00:31.679 at the Disneyland Resort in 1998? You know, I did know that. Yeah. Very good. 00:31.679 --> 00:38.320 Yeah. He's our He's our local Disneyland boy. He went away. He came back and then he went on to bigger and better things. 00:38.320 --> 00:43.920 Went away again. He's like the kid that like you know from your hometown that like goes to 00:43.920 --> 00:49.920 college and then like does crazy things. But you're like, "Oh, but I remember him 00:49.920 --> 00:58.960 when he was so bonus points. Do you know where he was born?" Oh. Uh, 00:58.960 --> 01:05.119 no. I I want to say like San Bernardino County or something. 01:05.119 --> 01:10.960 Try Medfield, Massachusetts. What the heck? Mhm. Very different. Um, and then I'm 01:10.960 --> 01:17.439 like, is Medfield the name of the city or the school or whatever in all of the old Disney liveaction films? Cuz I'm 01:17.439 --> 01:23.360 thinking that's the college. I think it's Medfield College, right? It might be. I think it is. Uh, maybe somebody can 01:23.360 --> 01:29.360 let us know in the comments. We will find out. Speaking of comments, Katie, what should people do? Well, you should subscribe to us 01:29.360 --> 01:36.400 wherever the heck you're watching because or listening or listening cuz we do cool things. Uh 01:36.400 --> 01:42.320 you should also go to uh DAPSHQ over at patreon.com/dapsmagic. We do a post show to this show and I 01:42.320 --> 01:48.960 feel like tonight's going to get real unhinged and which I say every week, but I really mean it. And uh you should also 01:48.960 --> 01:54.320 go into the comments, go into the chat, go wherever you are because if you're watching live, we have a portion towards 01:54.320 --> 01:59.600 the end called comments. Comments. That is exactly what it is 01:59.600 --> 02:05.439 called. But before we get into all of that, the Walt Disney Company has a new CEO. His 02:05.439 --> 02:12.080 name is Josh Diamaro. He will be taking on the role on March 18th, I believe, the same day of the annual shareholder 02:12.080 --> 02:18.959 meeting. Is that what that white smoke was about? Did you guys see the picture, though? There was a a meme going around today of 02:18.959 --> 02:26.560 white smoke coming no out of Cinderella Castle at Walt Disney World. Actually, I saw the Epcot one too, but the um the 02:26.560 --> 02:32.560 Cinderella Castle one I thought was was the best one. That's very funny. Uh along with him getting the CEO, see 02:32.560 --> 02:37.760 Medfield College. There we go. Not crazy synergy. 02:37.760 --> 02:43.120 It was meant to be from the day he was born. Uh Dana Walt will be taking on the 02:43.120 --> 02:50.080 role of president and chief creative officer, which is a new role that's never been had at the Walt Disney Company before. It's also the first time 02:50.080 --> 02:55.440 that a female has been a president, even though it's a dual role, like it's it's 02:55.440 --> 03:02.000 a two-part role role. Um throughout the day, former CEO Michael Eisner 03:02.000 --> 03:07.680 congratulated both of them. Bob Iger obviously did as well. and uh they were 03:07.680 --> 03:14.319 interviewed Bob and Josh tonight on ABC News and NBC News. So, they've been all over the place, which I think is very 03:14.319 --> 03:21.360 funny because the last couple of months I feel like Josh has been very noticeably absent from media events. and 03:21.360 --> 03:26.800 you know it's cuz they're kind of gearing up for this thing and they're just like um don't want to like have 03:26.800 --> 03:33.680 anything slip or somebody ask a question they're not supposed to or like notice that he got pulled from all of the the 03:33.680 --> 03:39.040 videos at Walt Disney World hotels, you know. Um that that kind of stuff. I think they 03:39.040 --> 03:45.360 should have kept him. I know. I miss do the Michael Eisner approach. I actually was going to say I'm disappointed that Michael Eisner 03:45.360 --> 03:51.519 didn't create a video message that started with him going hello behind a plant with like a Mickey Mouse tie on. 03:51.519 --> 03:58.000 Yeah. And his Mickey Mouse watch ears. Yeah. He could wear the ears, too. All right. So, what do we think of Josh 03:58.000 --> 04:03.040 Dearo being the next CEO of the Walt Disney Company. Katie, you get to go first. 04:03.040 --> 04:10.239 Wonderful. I actually was forming these thoughts when I was on FaceTime with my parents earlier. Hi, parents. Um, I 04:10.239 --> 04:17.600 think the thing that I really love about Josh Dearo in a CEO role is he really does care about the guest experience and 04:17.600 --> 04:24.560 the consumer experience because obviously being the CEO isn't just parks and experiences. It's also going into 04:24.560 --> 04:29.680 film. It's going into the subsidiaries like the Lucasfilm, the Marvel, the 04:29.680 --> 04:37.360 everything. sports ball sports ESPN Savannah Bananas like 04:37.360 --> 04:42.720 um and I think that he is open to feedback 04:42.720 --> 04:48.320 but he also doesn't let that feedback dictate what the plan is too much u and 04:48.320 --> 04:54.880 that is an important thing as a leader I know that's not something that we would love to hear as consumers is you know we want our opinions to be valued and heard 04:54.880 --> 05:01.440 but also as a CEO you get a heck of a lot of opinions so you need to be able to have a very clear vision of what that 05:01.440 --> 05:07.680 course is going to look like while also having empathy and care. Um, and every 05:07.680 --> 05:15.440 time we have met Josh Dearo, he's shown that like tenfold. Um, he is always we 05:15.440 --> 05:21.039 there's this thing we kind of joke about where it's like uh everybody you meet, they have I'm important tattooed across 05:21.039 --> 05:26.720 my forehead. Um, and Josh Dearo like lives that like every person in front of 05:26.720 --> 05:33.600 like the most important person in the world to him is the person in front of him and um, he embodies that and I'm 05:33.600 --> 05:39.199 super super super excited to see what he does with the Walt Disney Company cuz I think he's got a good vision. 05:39.199 --> 05:45.759 I will say if he's as interested in this new role as he was in my Star Wars tie on the opening day of Star Wars Galaxy's 05:45.759 --> 05:52.000 Edge, we're in for a good run. Oh my gosh, that was good. You know, he also liked my Baby Yoda hat that one 05:52.000 --> 05:57.759 time. He was He was very into all Star Wars. Uh I think it's a great thing. I think it's a good move. I've been thinking 05:57.759 --> 06:03.759 about who would be next for months, if not years now. And uh I think it's 06:03.759 --> 06:09.440 fairly safe to say that anybody that was a fan or an analyst of Disney that had a 06:09.440 --> 06:16.800 vested interest six, seven years ago um were were probably not super thrilled with the 06:16.800 --> 06:23.600 first try at uh succession for Bob Iger. And and I don't think it was a huge surp 06:23.600 --> 06:29.759 you know sometimes when you're too close to things I I think it can be hard and and so I think one of the great things 06:29.759 --> 06:35.280 about the Walt Disney Company is they tend to learn from their mistakes. You know we've seen this with events like 06:35.280 --> 06:40.319 Disneyland After Dark events where something doesn't work as well as it could and you see they've analyzed and 06:40.319 --> 06:48.240 adjust for the next time. They've clearly done that and you look at the team that was brought in for the board to pick Josh as 06:48.240 --> 06:56.240 the next CEO. And so you've got James Gorman who just did that very well effectively. Um and every other person 06:56.240 --> 07:03.120 that was on the um the nominating committee had this type of experience in 07:03.120 --> 07:09.360 a CE like a new CEO role um in succession in their portfolio. And so 07:09.360 --> 07:15.120 rather than it being people that were already kind of in the system that know that you have people that maybe are a 07:15.120 --> 07:23.520 little bit newer and and have also that um 07:23.520 --> 07:29.759 they could really do their due diligence, I guess you'd say, without being too biased to uh come up with a 07:29.759 --> 07:36.800 decision of Josh Dearo as CEO and then Dana Walton as president and CCO. And I 07:36.800 --> 07:41.919 think that's the that's the smart way to do it. It took them I mean it's been almost three I think they announced it 07:41.919 --> 07:48.319 in 2023 that they were starting the process. Gorman took over in 2024. So basically a year and a half since Gorman 07:48.319 --> 07:54.720 took over and um and I think they really did it the smart way and it's no surprise that 07:54.720 --> 08:00.080 it ends up being Dearo and Walden that end up in the top two spots because they're the ones that kind of been 08:00.080 --> 08:06.479 standing out for a very long time now. Um, as I was thinking about who would get the top spot and how that would work 08:06.479 --> 08:13.759 out, I really did have to come back to like it looked like it was Josh's to lose to me. Just as I was looking at the 08:13.759 --> 08:20.400 different things he's done in the last couple of years in his role as chairman of Disney Experiences, like he's done 08:20.400 --> 08:28.000 some stuff that's on the entertainment side of things, whether it was the incredible Disney Experiences uh panel 08:28.000 --> 08:34.000 at D23 a couple years ago, working with Epic Games. Um like he's been doing 08:34.000 --> 08:40.320 stuff that's not necessarily um like he works well with other people, 08:40.320 --> 08:45.760 I guess, is a good way to put it. and you hear about him being at at at premieres and he's already interacted 08:45.760 --> 08:52.320 with people in the movie industry and and so it's not an unknown commodity completely. Does everybody in the movie 08:52.320 --> 08:57.680 industry know who he is? No. But they will like he's he's going to go from 08:57.680 --> 09:03.760 being a person that probably could go to lots of places and maybe be kind of recognized to he's going to be 09:03.760 --> 09:09.680 recognized everywhere. Um, I think it's really smart of them to put Dearo and 09:09.680 --> 09:15.040 Walden together in this role. Um, just because I do think, as has been a huge 09:15.040 --> 09:20.720 discussion in the Disney community, that Disney is best when it's run by two people. The thing I do think is also 09:20.720 --> 09:28.160 interesting is this is not a traditional way of doing this. This is not a Walt and Roy. This is not a Michael and uh, 09:28.160 --> 09:33.519 Frank. This is a Josh and Dana because it's not the creative that's being 09:33.519 --> 09:41.040 supported by the operational person. You could almost make the op the the argument that it's the other way around. 09:41.040 --> 09:48.000 And um and that's kind of an interesting thing. But what what I think we've also observed is Josh knows how to pick the 09:48.000 --> 09:53.760 right talent. And he also seems to recognize things that that are gonna get 09:53.760 --> 09:58.959 people excited and geek out about whether it's droids or or you know a 09:58.959 --> 10:05.680 music number at at D23. Like there seems to be some creative openness and elements that he's pretty good with 10:05.680 --> 10:10.720 and Fortnite. There you go. Um but I think it's interesting because they both 10:10.720 --> 10:18.320 have some creative chops. I think she's probably stronger in the the movie entertainment creative world, but I do 10:18.320 --> 10:24.240 think there's an argument to be made that that parks now are almost as important to be 10:24.240 --> 10:29.440 creative if not more about the same as as entertainmentists. 10:29.440 --> 10:35.760 Like you have to have that storytelling element and and it's not just recreating the story, it's you know coming up with 10:35.760 --> 10:42.160 new stories for Avengers Campus or Galaxy's Edge or whatever that is. So, I think it's a fascinating way to move 10:42.160 --> 10:48.480 this forward. I think they're probably very well positioned to uh to take 10:48.480 --> 10:55.040 Disney to the next level. And and if you want to go even more into what I think, I did post a uh DAPS Magic, Disney, and 10:55.040 --> 11:02.800 Positive Stuff podcast earlier today that goes into my thoughts about where they will lead the company and how the 11:02.800 --> 11:08.800 the Tomorrow era is going to differ than the Aigger era because I really think it 11:08.800 --> 11:14.720 is a um you know, it's the next chapter in this this story of the Walt Disney Company. Um I also think it's 11:14.720 --> 11:21.200 interesting the company's 102 years old. Mhm. He will be, depending on how you count 11:21.200 --> 11:27.760 it, the eighth or the ninth CEO ever. What do you mean depending on how you 11:27.760 --> 11:33.519 count it? Walt Disney was technically not the CEO. He was the co-founder and I count it. 11:33.519 --> 11:40.240 So then he would be ninth. Yes. And um and it it'll be interesting to see, you 11:40.240 --> 11:46.880 know, what this looks like moving forward. And um what are your thoughts on do you have thoughts on Dana Walden? 11:46.880 --> 11:52.079 I'm also excited to see this uh collaboration for the company. Um 11:52.079 --> 11:58.079 honestly, and I know this is so especially if you said this 10 years 11:58.079 --> 12:06.959 ago, it's so sacrilegious to be like, man, the days of like Michael Eisner and Frank Wells, but um you literally had 12:06.959 --> 12:13.120 a little bit more of an undisiplined version because this was 30 some odd years ago. Um Michael Eisner running 12:13.120 --> 12:19.040 around and being like, "My kids said we should do star tours. and then Frank Wall's going, "Oh my god, let me just 12:19.040 --> 12:26.880 figure out how that's actually going to happen." Um, I think it's really exciting to have two people that are very disciplined and passionate 12:26.880 --> 12:34.720 creatively that also have the financial and the prowess and the operational 12:34.720 --> 12:42.079 um hat that they can put on like they can kind of wear both. Um, and I think that the reason the company is going to 12:42.079 --> 12:47.200 be successful with the two of them is that they both can support the other 12:47.200 --> 12:54.720 where needed. Agree. Um, I think it's also important to note that there's going to Right now 12:54.720 --> 12:59.839 is the honeymoon period. Yes. I'm actually really looking forward to this. One of my favorite things with 12:59.839 --> 13:05.519 Josh is is I've had the unique opportunity to be in the parks with him multiple times where guests have come up 13:05.519 --> 13:10.560 and told them they that they don't like reservations or they don't like this or they don't like that. 13:10.560 --> 13:17.200 And Josh, to his credit, will always stay and talk with the person and and listen to the person and hear them and 13:17.200 --> 13:22.959 then also at the same time not back down. And I think that's an important thing to do as a leader. and and so he's 13:22.959 --> 13:28.320 been able to I've seen it happen multiple times where he's like well this is the reasoning behind the reservations 13:28.320 --> 13:34.399 and this is how Disney reservations usually um 13:34.399 --> 13:40.079 and he's like this is this is the reason behind it and this is how it does benefit you even if you don't see it and 13:40.079 --> 13:46.480 and I think this is the hard part with anybody the further up you get from people the 13:46.480 --> 13:51.519 harder it is to understand the decisions that are made and and that's going to be 13:51.519 --> 13:56.880 Something that'll be interesting for us as Disney fans is we kind of have this 13:56.880 --> 14:03.839 we like Josh opinions on things and there's going to be times where things come that that 14:03.839 --> 14:09.360 people are going to be like, "Oh, well, this isn't the Josh from before." And and yes, it is because Josh is going to 14:09.360 --> 14:14.800 continue to be Josh. And and what we're going to see is Josh is going to have different information, different 14:14.800 --> 14:20.000 responsibilities, different um priorities that may not 14:20.000 --> 14:26.639 line up always with us that that are in the parks every, you know, month, week, whatever, how often you go. And it'll be 14:26.639 --> 14:31.760 interesting to see how that as a community gets navigated and interact, 14:31.760 --> 14:37.920 you know, like how all of that plays out because I think that's kind of the fun of this in some regards. Um because I 14:37.920 --> 14:42.959 think one of the things we do forget is that we get to go to Disneyland. We get 14:42.959 --> 14:49.760 to watch Inside Out or Pirates of the Caribbean or whatever it is because 14:49.760 --> 15:00.959 people like Josh and Bob and Michael and Card and um Roy and Ron and 15:00.959 --> 15:06.720 Walt, I guess. I don't know if I got them all, but uh because these people do make the hard decisions that keep the 15:06.720 --> 15:13.040 business growing and if it's not growing, it's it's failing and that that 15:13.040 --> 15:18.720 there's nothing worse than that could happen is is Disney to fail. So, I think we all want him to succeed. And uh we 15:18.720 --> 15:25.360 would love to interview you, Josh. You can do it virtually. You can sit on the couch. You are more than welcome to come and be on Geek's Corner anytime you 15:25.360 --> 15:32.560 want. He he did say yes to that. He did years ago. Yes. I I think I think we keep trying. So, let's Let's get Josh 15:32.560 --> 15:38.959 on Geeks Corner and we will talk about favorite movies. We will talk about the Muppets. We will talk about all of the 15:38.959 --> 15:44.880 fun stuff and people will get to know a little bit about Josh tomorrow. We can talk about your favorite pizza. 15:44.880 --> 15:51.600 Yeah, you can even you can pitch us whatever you want to talk about. It'll be a blast. All right. It is We spent a 15:51.600 --> 15:56.959 lot of time on that, but it's an exciting day. Are you surprised? No. All right. But now it's time to talk 15:56.959 --> 16:02.480 about the important thing. Thanks, Daddy. Thank you, Mr. Dad, thanks, man. 16:02.480 --> 16:10.399 It is time to talk about The Muppets. The Muppet Show arrives on Disney Plus at ABC tomorrow. In fact, less than it's 16:10.399 --> 16:16.560 in like 3 hours, you could watch it on Disney Plus. So, odds are if you're not watching this live, you could be 16:16.560 --> 16:22.560 watching The Muppets and then this or Yeah, you could watch the new The Muppet Show with Sabrina Carpenter and Seth 16:22.560 --> 16:28.560 Rogan and Maya Rod Rudolph and Rudolph. Rudolph. What do you get when you combine Seth 16:28.560 --> 16:33.920 Rogan and Maya Rudolph? Um, good. You never know. Anyway, we did get the 16:33.920 --> 16:39.839 chance to see the Muppet Show. And uh, so we have watched it. You could have had the chance to see it if you've 16:39.839 --> 16:45.519 watched it on D23 Gold Theater earlier tonight. And uh, I will tell you without 16:45.519 --> 16:52.000 getting into any spoilers whatsoever, we're not going to talk about anything that's in the show. We're just going to talk about feelings 16:52.000 --> 16:57.040 and vibes and and things like that. Um 16:57.040 --> 17:02.720 because really it's one of those things with a show like this you need to watch 17:02.720 --> 17:07.839 it and you need to have your own opinions and and we don't want to impact that. Um we will share our opinions 17:07.839 --> 17:13.280 though and Katie with that in mind what were your opinions on the new the Muppet 17:13.280 --> 17:20.000 Show. I absolutely loved it and I I loved it not in the 17:20.000 --> 17:26.480 not not in the regard of we got Muppets therefore I like it. It was uh this 17:26.480 --> 17:35.600 actually feels like the Muppets. It's structured like the Muppets. It sounds like the Muppets. Um everything about it 17:35.600 --> 17:40.880 is going to give you it gave me I can't say it's going to give you. It gave me 17:40.880 --> 17:47.360 the feeling of watching the original Muppet Show. And that is the highest compliment I think I could give. Um 17:47.360 --> 17:54.080 because there's just this feeling you can't replicate without doing something 17:54.080 --> 17:59.919 100% correctly. Mhm. And um I mean there's the old story with 17:59.919 --> 18:06.559 uh the tiki room with Walt Disney where he was like, "Why are the birds breathing?" And it's like, "Well, cuz the guests can feel perfection." Um 18:06.559 --> 18:13.200 yeah, they're not going to notice these minute details here or there, but you're going to feel it as the person consuming 18:13.200 --> 18:19.679 it. And I think that's 100% true with this iteration of the Muppet Show. And I 18:19.679 --> 18:25.840 hope there's like a thousand more to come. Honestly, 18:25.840 --> 18:32.160 love it. Uh I loved it as well. I thought it was a blast. I thought they they nailed the vibe of the Muppet Show, 18:32.160 --> 18:38.160 but also made it modern, so it wasn't just looking to the past. Um which I think would have been bad. I 18:38.160 --> 18:43.360 think if they just tried to simply go back and be like, "We're doing the Muppet Show again." and 18:43.360 --> 18:50.160 and there wasn't anything current that could be a problem. And cuz you think of it, 18:50.160 --> 18:56.320 like the Muppet Show at its time was really kind of edgy and and they got edgy in this and I 18:56.320 --> 19:03.919 thought that was really solid and I felt like they nailed the characters. They felt a lot more um 19:03.919 --> 19:10.480 uh I mean I watched it than the show. Beautiful. And um but they nailed the characters. They nailed the vibe. the it 19:10.480 --> 19:16.320 it left you wanting more, which is a win. And the real hope I have now is 19:16.320 --> 19:22.480 people go back at 9:00 or midnight tonight and and start watching it over 19:22.480 --> 19:29.760 and over, you know, just hit it on refresh or repeat or whatever it is and and get those play numbers up so we get 19:29.760 --> 19:35.600 more. Um, and I am very pleasantly surprised. Like 19:35.600 --> 19:40.960 I think the best thing that came out in recent years in recent being a stretch 19:40.960 --> 19:46.240 was probably The Muppet Movie 2011. Like that that kind of was that 19:46.240 --> 19:52.720 direction, but it wasn't the Muppet Show and it also wasn't truly a Muppet movie 19:52.720 --> 19:59.120 cuz it it the center of the story were people instead of Muppets, you know, 19:59.120 --> 20:05.120 like it was it was a little bit I don't know. I I think you could make some arguments about that. And um and 20:05.120 --> 20:13.280 then you go back further then you've got, you know, Muppet Treasure Island and uh Muppet Christmas Carol, but you 20:13.280 --> 20:20.720 think that's adds up to like one good thing a decade if we were to stretch it all out. And I think this has a chance 20:20.720 --> 20:26.880 to be not just good but great. and they could, you know, even if they do the 20:26.880 --> 20:33.440 Columbbo thing where it's a couple episodes a year, you know, instead of it being like a weekly series, like don't 20:33.440 --> 20:38.799 kill yourself off. I would much rather know that, you know, we get one a 20:38.799 --> 20:45.200 quarter or one a month and it's really good as opposed to and like with a really great guest, really 20:45.200 --> 20:52.640 great music. Like go creativity and lean into good show, good story, good comedy, all of 20:52.640 --> 20:57.760 that stuff versus um trying to rush it out and get too 20:57.760 --> 21:03.600 many. And and um I'm hopeful like if people just keep watching it and and 21:03.600 --> 21:10.240 hopefully everybody else thinks it's as good as we do. Um I see Bailey liked it and we liked it and uh other people I 21:10.240 --> 21:17.200 know that that uh were able to review it ahead of time also seem to be very into it. And I don't think it's just because 21:17.200 --> 21:22.799 it's new. Like I do think it is legitimately fun. 21:22.799 --> 21:28.960 I'm so excited. Yeah. I just I it's kind of like how I felt after we watched Disneyland Handcrafted where I was like, "Oh my 21:28.960 --> 21:35.440 gosh, I want to watch it like 15 more times." Um, in some ways this is better. 21:35.440 --> 21:40.799 Yeah. Like Handcrafted might be more interesting, but this is way more entertaining. 21:40.799 --> 21:46.720 Yeah. Yeah. It's also just It just feels so good to be back. 21:46.720 --> 21:51.840 And hopefully we are back. Like this is the real trick and this is where I'm I'm 21:51.840 --> 21:58.159 finding myself on this fence or whatever you want to call it is I thought it was great, you thought it 21:58.159 --> 22:05.520 was great, other people think it's great. Will the general population want to see this? Or in like in a perfect 22:05.520 --> 22:11.200 world, it introduces a whole new generation to the Muppets and they love it and we get more of, you know, beyond 22:11.200 --> 22:18.080 just this. You know, maybe we get uh um you know, the the the always rumored 22:18.080 --> 22:24.159 next version of Muppet Vision 3D. You know, we have a space for that still at Disney California Adventure and it's not 22:24.159 --> 22:30.159 super busy. Every time I go by, I don't know. I I think there's 22:30.159 --> 22:36.799 possibilities for it. And um don't you think so? Here's here's what I'm thinking and 22:36.799 --> 22:42.960 hear me out. You can absolutely stop me. Um you know, they haven't broken ground 22:42.960 --> 22:49.600 at the Hollywood backlot area. Mhm. So, I'm thinking 22:49.600 --> 22:58.960 we do a Muppet vision aspect in that theater and then 22:58.960 --> 23:07.280 in the Monsters building, we could do maybe a a ride about movies. Maybe it's 23:07.280 --> 23:13.120 great. Um, and maybe the Muppets are providing commentary. you know, the 23:13.120 --> 23:19.360 original plan for Disney MGM Studios and The Great Movie Ride. Um, and then, uh, if we're looking for 23:19.360 --> 23:26.640 like an E ticket attraction, you know, do some expansion. Um, I heard that the Electric Mayhem are 23:26.640 --> 23:36.080 putting on a concert and I think they need a super stretch limo to get us there pretty quickly. So, 23:36.080 --> 23:43.120 um, there's also, you may remember, there was a fountain in the Hollywood backlot area. Originally, it was was 23:43.120 --> 23:48.400 Mickey was very cute. It's not there anymore, but we could bring that fountain back. 23:48.400 --> 23:53.520 Mhm. As Miss Piggy dressed as the Statue of Liberty. Mhm. 23:53.520 --> 24:00.480 Yeah. Um, and I know, I hear you. But what are we going to do with the uh 24:00.480 --> 24:07.360 refreshment backlot area and the and the cart? Easy. Um, have you ever heard of 24:07.360 --> 24:13.919 Rizzo? Oh, I thought you were going to go Swedish chef. No. Rizzo. Rizzo the rat. Did you know 24:13.919 --> 24:19.760 he makes pizza? Oh, yeah. I see where you're going. Pretty crazy. Um, it's the city's top 24:19.760 --> 24:26.480 rated pizza or as some people have said, it's rat pizza. Um, which is one of my 24:26.480 --> 24:34.320 favorite visual gags and I'm so sad it's gone from the parks. Or they could bring back my personal favorite thing. 24:34.320 --> 24:39.440 You've got the dough. We've got the cheese. There you go. I'm sorry. I'm just really reminiscing 24:39.440 --> 24:45.679 about how much I miss Muppet Courtyard. But I would like to see them actually move forward with new Muppet stuff and not just revisit the past because I 24:45.679 --> 24:52.960 think that's been the problem is up until here, the Muppets have always just tried to 24:52.960 --> 25:00.000 revisit the past and recreate the lightning in the bottle that once was without taking the risk of of 25:00.000 --> 25:06.960 new, something new and edgy. And it's interesting because even in the interviews with Josh and Bob tonight, uh 25:06.960 --> 25:13.120 they were talking about the importance of taking risk as a leader. And I I just think that's what the Muppets really 25:13.120 --> 25:20.960 need is that um that risk like you have to take the risk and uh um I hope they 25:20.960 --> 25:28.320 do and I hope we see more risky edgy Muppets in the future and uh and that will be a lot of fun. All right, final 25:28.320 --> 25:33.360 thing for the night is looking to the past after we just looked to the future. 25:33.360 --> 25:39.200 Disney California Adventure will be celebrating its 25th anniversary this coming weekend. that we say this as 25:39.200 --> 25:44.640 we're looking at a map of opening day Disney's California Adventure over to my 25:44.640 --> 25:50.159 right. But yeah, there it is. And um so 25:50.159 --> 25:56.799 we're doing a series called 25 years at Disney California Adventure where I'm basically just going through and 25:56.799 --> 26:02.320 spotlighting different things that have been in the park through the years. 26:02.320 --> 26:07.520 Today, so today was Glowfest. Yesterday was California Screaming. Um, I have a 26:07.520 --> 26:14.880 couple more planned out later this week that that'll be kind of fun. One of them being I think one of my favorite YouTube 26:14.880 --> 26:20.400 videos that we've ever posted and um mainly just because through the years it 26:20.400 --> 26:26.480 has gotten some of the most amusing comments and it just keeps going and going and I 26:26.480 --> 26:31.760 would never have predicted it but and you're probably not going to predict it either. You'll have to stay tuned for that one. 26:31.760 --> 26:37.200 Make sure to subscribe to dabsmagic.com. But we're gonna get new Mickey Mini costumes. We're getting the return of 26:37.200 --> 26:43.679 Saurin over California. We're getting a fun uh novelty bucket because they're not popcorn buckets anymore. But as you 26:43.679 --> 26:48.960 look back at 25 years of Disney California Adventure, what are some of 26:48.960 --> 26:56.480 your favorite things through the years? One or two of them. Um super easy to start the California 26:56.480 --> 27:02.559 letters. That California postcard entrance um I think was entirely 27:02.559 --> 27:07.600 magical. Um, and also not to this is I 27:07.600 --> 27:12.880 promise I'm not just saying this for this show because it's relevant. Um, 27:12.880 --> 27:18.000 Disney California Adventure is what introduced me to the Muppets. Mhm. I think a lot of people 27:18.000 --> 27:23.360 that is the first place I ever like obviously you you're born with awareness 27:23.360 --> 27:28.799 of Kermit the Frog. Um, but like you have this awareness of these things, but 27:28.799 --> 27:35.760 this was like the first real Muppet anything I saw as a kid. and it's solid. And Muppet Vision is so good, but I have 27:35.760 --> 27:42.000 such vivid memories of that pre-show. Um, specifically Scooter, uh, going through 27:42.000 --> 27:48.000 all the TVs. Um, yeah. Like, and I'm not I swear I'm not 27:48.000 --> 27:54.799 just being like, it's cuz this is the Muppets episode. I've talked about this many a time. Um, 27:54.799 --> 28:01.360 yeah, I think Muppet Vision 3D for sure. That's your thing, huh? Yeah. All right. 28:01.360 --> 28:06.640 What's yours? The correct answer is Electronica. Oh, well, no. Uh, Muppet Vision's definitely up 28:06.640 --> 28:12.159 there. Electronica is up there. Um, I think that was one of the most 28:12.159 --> 28:18.559 fun. I guess it's an overlay that that Disney did there. Uh, Mad Tea Party was kind of 28:18.559 --> 28:26.000 uh something that grew out of that. But Electronica had something special um that really brought people together and 28:26.000 --> 28:31.919 it planted the seeds for what Mad Tea Party would become. And people still talk about it today. Like if you 28:31.919 --> 28:38.880 experienced either of those, you you talk about it today. Like if you were playing in the Flynn's Arcade, like we 28:38.880 --> 28:45.200 used to go every Sunday night and we'd play Flynn's Arcade and and compete in there and watch the the different 28:45.200 --> 28:52.000 entertainment offerings. And then when Mad Tea Party came along, there was a similar thing going on with the band. 28:52.000 --> 29:00.240 And um and so it really helped, I think, create a Disney community in in that 29:00.240 --> 29:08.799 park. and probably was some of the first times that the bigger Disney community 29:08.799 --> 29:15.679 was really into DCA because I think before that you had your DCA 1.0 lovers, you being one of them. 29:15.679 --> 29:21.279 And then there was a few of us that are like, "Oh, I want to go do Muppet Vision every Sunday night for the last show of 29:21.279 --> 29:27.679 the night because it's the best because it's empty." You know, there was there were certain elements of it and there 29:27.679 --> 29:33.520 were small groups that were really into it. And then when you know I probably actually started with Glowfest in World 29:33.520 --> 29:39.600 of Color, that's when it started becoming a place where people were connecting not just 29:39.600 --> 29:45.440 with each other but also at the parks and um and that will be fun to see 29:45.440 --> 29:50.559 as well. And um yeah, I I'm I think that's probably one of the things that 29:50.559 --> 29:56.320 was fun. Uh Minnie's Fly Girls is always going to be up there as are the news boys. Always going to be up there. 29:56.320 --> 30:04.320 Interesting. A lot of this is entertainment driven. um Minnie's Fly Girl. Mhm. And um and then like I think all of 30:04.320 --> 30:10.640 Cars Land like that uh that was one of the most fantastic openings I think I've 30:10.640 --> 30:18.880 ever been to was the opening night of of Cars Land. And uh well the other thing um we really have 30:18.880 --> 30:25.440 to thank DCA 2.0 for a lot of what you see on camera in front of you today. Uh 30:25.440 --> 30:32.399 because as you've heard a million times, DAPS was the only uh outlet I was 30:32.399 --> 30:40.000 watching for DCA 2.0 coverage because you were at the media event. You had all these great videos. I was um I was super 30:40.000 --> 30:46.399 sick that year. Um and so I literally had like just gotten I think an MRI and 30:46.399 --> 30:53.600 I still I had like this crazy bruised hand. It was terrible. But I was watching the DAP's videos because I was 30:53.600 --> 30:58.880 like, "Oh, this is quality. This is fun." Um, and I was trying to imagine 30:58.880 --> 31:05.840 because in my head, the last time I had been to California Venture was what we called Wall Street USA. Um, you couldn't 31:05.840 --> 31:10.880 like you were going over behind Saurin and entering the park. And so I couldn't 31:10.880 --> 31:17.360 even fathom, wait, where's the Starbucks? Wait, where did they put Cars Land? like and I was watching these 31:17.360 --> 31:24.000 videos and um I specifically remember the news boys video because I was so mind blown that like they came out on 31:24.000 --> 31:30.480 this trolley and they were doing flip not flips but like they're dancing all types of things. Um and so yeah, 31:30.480 --> 31:36.559 shout out to DCA 2.0. Thanks for the boyfriend. There you go. 31:36.559 --> 31:41.480 All right, it is time now for 31:44.320 --> 31:49.679 comments. comments. That is right. It is time for comments. 31:49.679 --> 31:55.600 If you have something you'd like us to respond to, throw it in the comments. We'll stick around for a couple more minutes. I will scroll back up. I saw a 31:55.600 --> 32:01.200 couple comments as we were going along that I will hit as much as I can. I'm going all the way to the top. So, we'll 32:01.200 --> 32:06.799 see how that goes. Moving right along. Moving right along. Moving right along. Mikey was always hoping Josh would be 32:06.799 --> 32:11.840 the next in line. I think very good choice. I think a lot of us did. Once you met him and you saw him working and 32:11.840 --> 32:19.519 you saw how he interacted with the ca cast, you could see this was a good fit and um and he genuinely cares not just 32:19.519 --> 32:25.679 about the cast, but he also cares about the people and and that's an important thing. Um 32:25.679 --> 32:32.559 yes, I think two people working together is is a great way. It just I do think there always has to be a person that's 32:32.559 --> 32:38.960 where the buck stops. Um and 32:38.960 --> 32:45.519 uh hope studios like picture get some of their you know I think they will I think there's been a focus so the thing 32:45.519 --> 32:52.080 looking at at this I can see where people are upset with um the state of 32:52.080 --> 33:00.240 creativity in the Walt Disney company is growing again and I I think the real trick is is when 33:00.240 --> 33:08.240 um they went through the era of not so fun during the pandemic and everything else the focus became became quantity, 33:08.240 --> 33:14.399 not quality. And Disney's still recovering from that. So when Bob Iger came back, he had to 33:14.399 --> 33:19.919 fix a lot of things and he had to keep the company the company. It's interesting to me that both Bob Iger and 33:19.919 --> 33:28.880 Michael Eisner towards the end of their careers at Disney had to save the company from um from uh activist 33:28.880 --> 33:36.080 shareholders or corporate writers and and and I think they both successfully did it. And I hope that in history 33:36.080 --> 33:44.080 they're both given a lot more credit than they initially were because uh without Michael Eisner, the era of Bob 33:44.080 --> 33:50.080 Iger doesn't happen. And I think the same is going to be said without Bob Iger. We don't have the era of of Josh 33:50.080 --> 33:56.159 Demaro. And um you just glazed over one of those. Well, because it really wasn't an era. 33:56.159 --> 34:03.039 It was like it was a blip. It's just really funny. And and honestly, that's 34:03.039 --> 34:08.079 There's a lot of different whatifs that could be questioned with that. Um, you're going to love the Muppets 34:08.079 --> 34:13.760 tomorrow or Muppet Show tomorrow. Can't wait for you to see that, Ethan. Um, I will say the other fun thing is that 34:13.760 --> 34:21.118 Sabrina Carpenter is Sabrina Carpenter. Yes. Like, um, Mikey, I hope you let us know what you think about it as well. It does like 34:21.119 --> 34:27.200 it hits the nostalgia, but it also keeps moving forward. I think that's great. U, we'll see the original Muppet Vision 34:27.200 --> 34:34.000 will come back. I don't know. Like, it's possible. It's it's also I I also think 34:34.000 --> 34:40.000 imagineers like to make new things and not necessarily revisit the past. And I 34:40.000 --> 34:48.158 also wonder if we were to get a Muppet Vision somewhere else that was a cop carbon copy of the original one. I don't 34:48.159 --> 34:54.398 know how well it would be received. On the flip side, the counter to my own argument, 34:54.399 --> 34:59.440 Saurin over California. Yeah. So, anything is possible. And and I 34:59.440 --> 35:05.280 think honestly if there's enough fan clamor for that it could happen. Uh 35:05.280 --> 35:11.040 Muppets for whatever reason under Imagineering. I will talk more about Muppets and Josh tomorrow on uh Daps 35:11.040 --> 35:16.400 After Dark on Daps HQ tonight. Um remind me about this. I gladly won't. 35:16.400 --> 35:22.079 I I have more but I'm going to save it because it's more than two seconds. Um 35:22.079 --> 35:30.079 we know you love DCA 2.0. Yes. So, are we in DCA 3.0 now? We're heading 35:30.079 --> 35:35.599 into 3.0. Um, you've heard what I call it. 2.5. Is that what it is? Uh, 2.8. 35:35.599 --> 35:40.880 2.8. Yeah. 2.8. Cuz I think we're uh I think Avengers Campus was 2.5. Okay. 35:40.880 --> 35:46.640 Um, I say that we're in 2.8. I think 3.0 is when we get a park rename. 35:46.640 --> 35:51.680 What if they don't rename it, but it's just a completely different park? That's the problem is we're doing Ship 35:51.680 --> 35:58.480 of Thesius on Disney California Adventure Park. But I think we get a rename that officially begins the 3.0 35:58.480 --> 36:05.839 era. Um if not, I think that um what would signal 3.0 would be the closing of 36:05.839 --> 36:13.440 Grizzly Peak and Grizzly Airfield. To me, that would be so not not the So to me, I think the end 36:13.440 --> 36:18.800 of Paradise Gardens if that becomes all Pixar or whatever it is back in the 36:18.800 --> 36:24.079 corner. Really, not Grizzly Peak. Um, I don't know that they'll ever get rid of 36:24.079 --> 36:30.320 Grizzly Peak. Mainly because it there's so many integrations with other parts of 36:30.320 --> 36:36.079 the park from there. Okay. Um Um maybe the challenge trail. I can 36:36.079 --> 36:41.520 definitely see that going. Um I would personally love to see like 36:41.520 --> 36:48.960 country bears go there or um or another idea that I have. But um yeah, I don't 36:48.960 --> 36:55.200 know. Like there there's lots of possibilities. Maybe we'll talk more about those on Daps After Dark tonight. 36:55.200 --> 37:01.599 All right, Katie, we are running out of time. What should people do? Uh you should go to dapsmagic.com, check out all the Disney and positive stuff as 37:01.599 --> 37:10.480 it happens. 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