WEBVTT 00:13.280 --> 00:14.950 Welcome to Daps Magic, Disney and 00:14.950 --> 00:14.960 00:14.960 --> 00:17.349 positive stuff. I'm Mr. Daps and today 00:17.349 --> 00:17.359 00:17.359 --> 00:18.710 we're going to revisit something that 00:18.710 --> 00:18.720 00:18.720 --> 00:19.990 I've been writing about and you might 00:19.990 --> 00:20.000 00:20.000 --> 00:21.349 have seen on our YouTube channel 00:21.349 --> 00:21.359 00:21.359 --> 00:23.670 already. And this comes from the short 00:23.670 --> 00:23.680 00:23.680 --> 00:25.590 circuit program at the Walt Disney 00:25.590 --> 00:25.600 00:25.600 --> 00:28.550 Studios. This is a short by Malcolm 00:28.550 --> 00:28.560 00:28.560 --> 00:31.509 Pierce called Versa. And I got a chance 00:31.509 --> 00:31.519 00:31.519 --> 00:33.590 last month to see this short, to talk 00:33.590 --> 00:33.600 00:33.600 --> 00:36.389 with Malcolin about this short. And 00:36.389 --> 00:36.399 00:36.399 --> 00:38.470 since then, our coverage has really 00:38.470 --> 00:38.480 00:38.480 --> 00:40.310 gotten a lot of engagement and 00:40.310 --> 00:40.320 00:40.320 --> 00:41.830 attraction. And I've really noticed 00:41.830 --> 00:41.840 00:41.840 --> 00:43.510 people have continued to talk about 00:43.510 --> 00:43.520 00:43.520 --> 00:45.270 this. So, I thought it was worth 00:45.270 --> 00:45.280 00:45.280 --> 00:47.510 revisiting, and it's been in my head, 00:47.510 --> 00:47.520 00:47.520 --> 00:49.910 too. and in chatting a little bit about 00:49.910 --> 00:49.920 00:49.920 --> 00:51.990 what I personally took away from Versa, 00:51.990 --> 00:52.000 00:52.000 --> 00:54.470 why I think it's such an important short 00:54.470 --> 00:54.480 00:54.480 --> 00:57.029 for the Walt Disney Animation Studios as 00:57.029 --> 00:57.039 00:57.039 --> 00:59.830 really all of Short Circuit is that 00:59.830 --> 00:59.840 00:59.840 --> 01:02.229 whole program, but really why it stuck 01:02.229 --> 01:02.239 01:02.239 --> 01:03.830 out to me over the last month and a 01:03.830 --> 01:03.840 01:03.840 --> 01:05.830 half. And I hope you'll enjoy this. I 01:05.830 --> 01:05.840 01:05.840 --> 01:08.789 hope you'll bear with me. But, um, I 01:08.789 --> 01:08.799 01:08.799 --> 01:10.550 think it's something special because so 01:10.550 --> 01:10.560 01:10.560 --> 01:12.710 often we're talking about ticket prices 01:12.710 --> 01:12.720 01:12.720 --> 01:15.830 or park expansions or or new attractions 01:15.830 --> 01:15.840 01:15.840 --> 01:19.510 or new shows or or whatever it is, but 01:19.510 --> 01:19.520 01:19.520 --> 01:21.670 we don't always stop and slow down and 01:21.670 --> 01:21.680 01:21.680 --> 01:23.670 think of the why behind the magic. Where 01:23.670 --> 01:23.680 01:23.680 --> 01:26.630 do these stories coming from? Um, what 01:26.630 --> 01:26.640 01:26.640 --> 01:28.469 are the what are the personal 01:28.469 --> 01:28.479 01:28.479 --> 01:30.390 connections to these stories? And so I 01:30.390 --> 01:30.400 01:30.400 --> 01:32.550 thought we would slow down today and 01:32.550 --> 01:32.560 01:32.560 --> 01:35.990 look at what Malcolm Pierce did who he 01:35.990 --> 01:36.000 01:36.000 --> 01:39.109 directed Versa. And and so let's let's 01:39.109 --> 01:39.119 01:39.119 --> 01:42.469 take a look at how it explores with both 01:42.469 --> 01:42.479 01:42.479 --> 01:45.990 connection but also loss. And uh and so 01:45.990 --> 01:46.000 01:46.000 --> 01:47.749 what we're going to do is we're going to 01:47.749 --> 01:47.759 01:47.759 --> 01:49.429 take apart this interview I did with 01:49.429 --> 01:49.439 01:49.439 --> 01:53.109 Malcolm Pierce and really look at uh 01:53.109 --> 01:53.119 01:53.119 --> 01:56.630 what his story is and how it came to be 01:56.630 --> 01:56.640 01:56.640 --> 01:58.870 a part of the story that he told in 01:58.870 --> 01:58.880 01:58.880 --> 02:01.270 Versa because it's a very personal and 02:01.270 --> 02:01.280 02:01.280 --> 02:03.590 vulnerable thing. First off though, 02:03.590 --> 02:03.600 02:03.600 --> 02:06.389 Malcolm Pierce is a studio artistic 02:06.389 --> 02:06.399 02:06.399 --> 02:09.109 director at Disney Animation. He's from 02:09.109 --> 02:09.119 02:09.119 --> 02:10.869 Vancouver though. Well, currently up in 02:10.869 --> 02:10.879 02:10.879 --> 02:13.430 Vancouver, but he came down to the Walt 02:13.430 --> 02:13.440 02:13.440 --> 02:14.949 Disney Studios so that we could get a 02:14.949 --> 02:14.959 02:14.959 --> 02:16.710 preview of Versa and a couple other 02:16.710 --> 02:16.720 02:16.720 --> 02:19.750 shorts. And I had the chance to sit down 02:19.750 --> 02:19.760 02:19.760 --> 02:22.150 and talk to him about how he turned 02:22.150 --> 02:22.160 02:22.160 --> 03:08.470 grief into something beautiful. 03:08.470 --> 03:08.480 03:08.480 --> 03:10.309 So Malcolin's journey really began while 03:10.309 --> 03:10.319 03:10.319 --> 03:13.750 he's working on Moana. And like many of 03:13.750 --> 03:13.760 03:13.760 --> 03:16.309 us, when something terrible happens or 03:16.309 --> 03:16.319 03:16.319 --> 03:18.630 something overwhelming happens, we we 03:18.630 --> 03:18.640 03:18.640 --> 03:21.910 turn to our passion and and we work to 03:21.910 --> 03:21.920 03:21.920 --> 03:24.309 navigate these difficult times with the 03:24.309 --> 03:24.319 03:24.319 --> 03:26.710 passions that we have. And in this case, 03:26.710 --> 03:26.720 03:26.720 --> 03:29.270 this was this was the loss of his son 03:29.270 --> 03:29.280 03:29.280 --> 03:32.710 named Cooper. And uh and you know, I 03:32.710 --> 03:32.720 03:32.720 --> 03:34.789 could talk about this, but let's listen 03:34.789 --> 03:34.799 03:34.799 --> 03:38.149 to Malcolm as he talks about how he used 03:38.149 --> 03:38.159 03:38.159 --> 03:42.070 Moana as as a distraction, but but 03:42.070 --> 03:42.080 03:42.080 --> 03:43.910 really it was just that. It didn't get 03:43.910 --> 03:43.920 03:43.920 --> 03:46.470 him away from anything. 03:46.470 --> 03:46.480 03:46.480 --> 03:48.470 After 03:48.470 --> 03:48.480 03:48.480 --> 03:51.110 after we lost Cooper, there was a moment 03:51.110 --> 03:51.120 03:51.120 --> 03:53.750 where I I sort of I went back and I was 03:53.750 --> 03:53.760 03:53.760 --> 03:56.149 using production as a way to cope by 03:56.149 --> 03:56.159 03:56.159 --> 03:58.149 distracting myself. And you know, this 03:58.149 --> 03:58.159 03:58.159 --> 04:00.470 was on Moana. And so I was coming in 04:00.470 --> 04:00.480 04:00.480 --> 04:02.710 right back into it, you know. It this 04:02.710 --> 04:02.720 04:02.720 --> 04:05.190 was great. What a great distraction. 04:05.190 --> 04:05.200 04:05.200 --> 04:08.229 I can just focus on uh dailies and 04:08.229 --> 04:08.239 04:08.239 --> 04:10.149 working with the team and we're busy, 04:10.149 --> 04:10.159 04:10.159 --> 04:11.910 you know, and it kept my mind sort of 04:11.910 --> 04:11.920 04:11.920 --> 04:14.630 off of, you know, the hard stuff. And 04:14.630 --> 04:14.640 04:14.640 --> 04:17.270 then when I go home, you know, it was 04:17.270 --> 04:17.280 04:17.280 --> 04:20.629 always right there again. And I think 04:20.629 --> 04:20.639 04:20.639 --> 04:23.350 once we wrapped Moana, then suddenly I 04:23.350 --> 04:23.360 04:23.360 --> 04:25.749 didn't have a really clear distraction 04:25.749 --> 04:25.759 04:25.759 --> 04:27.350 anymore. So I think this is something 04:27.350 --> 04:27.360 04:27.360 --> 04:30.150 that many of us can relate to. Uh we 04:30.150 --> 04:30.160 04:30.160 --> 04:34.710 often find soulless in creativity in in 04:34.710 --> 04:34.720 04:34.720 --> 04:38.629 focusing on projects and 04:38.629 --> 04:38.639 04:38.639 --> 04:41.189 it's something but it's not necessarily 04:41.189 --> 04:41.199 04:41.199 --> 04:43.909 everything. It's not traditional or true 04:43.909 --> 04:43.919 04:43.919 --> 04:46.629 healing. And 04:46.629 --> 04:46.639 04:46.639 --> 04:49.909 just as Malcolm discovered and shared, 04:49.909 --> 04:49.919 04:49.919 --> 04:52.629 the real magic for him happened when he 04:52.629 --> 04:52.639 04:52.639 --> 04:55.430 stopped running away from his pain and 04:55.430 --> 04:55.440 04:55.440 --> 04:59.749 instead started looking directly at it. 04:59.749 --> 04:59.759 04:59.759 --> 05:02.150 And for Malcolm, the pivotal moment 05:02.150 --> 05:02.160 05:02.160 --> 05:04.310 really was in the nursery at home that 05:04.310 --> 05:04.320 05:04.320 --> 05:06.629 had already been put together, all ready 05:06.629 --> 05:06.639 05:06.639 --> 05:10.469 to go for when Cooper would arrive. And 05:10.469 --> 05:10.479 05:10.479 --> 05:12.629 Malcolin was blessed with a wife that I 05:12.629 --> 05:12.639 05:12.639 --> 05:16.390 think is not just supportive but also 05:16.390 --> 05:16.400 05:16.400 --> 05:19.990 wise. And so she was documenting the 05:19.990 --> 05:20.000 05:20.000 --> 05:23.909 journey of pain. And she was doing this 05:23.909 --> 05:23.919 05:23.919 --> 05:25.270 through photography cuz she's a 05:25.270 --> 05:25.280 05:25.280 --> 05:26.870 photographer. 05:26.870 --> 05:26.880 05:26.880 --> 05:29.590 And and what ended up happening is a 05:29.590 --> 05:29.600 05:29.600 --> 05:31.590 series of photos that she took really 05:31.590 --> 05:31.600 05:31.600 --> 05:35.749 became a a foundation or a blueprint for 05:35.749 --> 05:35.759 05:35.759 --> 05:39.029 what would become Versa. 05:39.029 --> 05:39.039 05:39.039 --> 05:41.909 I think once we wrapped Moana then 05:41.909 --> 05:41.919 05:41.919 --> 05:44.230 suddenly I didn't have a really clear 05:44.230 --> 05:44.240 05:44.240 --> 05:47.270 distraction anymore and I started to 05:47.270 --> 05:47.280 05:47.280 --> 05:49.270 think about 05:49.270 --> 05:49.280 05:49.280 --> 05:51.830 well my wife was like there was we had a 05:51.830 --> 05:51.840 05:51.840 --> 05:53.749 sorry I'm a little all over the place. 05:53.749 --> 05:53.759 05:53.759 --> 05:55.990 The nursery was kind of a point where I 05:55.990 --> 05:56.000 05:56.000 --> 05:58.790 would avoid and I and we would we would 05:58.790 --> 05:58.800 05:58.800 --> 06:00.550 walk up to get to our bedroom. I'd have 06:00.550 --> 06:00.560 06:00.560 --> 06:02.870 to walk past the nursery and I'd always 06:02.870 --> 06:02.880 06:02.880 --> 06:06.230 kind of keep the door closed and I I'd 06:06.230 --> 06:06.240 06:06.240 --> 06:07.590 often walk up there and the door would 06:07.590 --> 06:07.600 06:07.600 --> 06:10.150 be open. Key would be in there and she'd 06:10.150 --> 06:10.160 06:10.160 --> 06:11.430 say, "I think you should I think it's 06:11.430 --> 06:11.440 06:11.440 --> 06:14.070 time, you know, things are quieted down. 06:14.070 --> 06:14.080 06:14.080 --> 06:15.270 I think it'd be good for you to go in 06:15.270 --> 06:15.280 06:15.280 --> 06:16.950 there." And I kicked and screamed for 06:16.950 --> 06:16.960 06:16.960 --> 06:19.270 the longest time like, "No, I don't 06:19.270 --> 06:19.280 06:19.280 --> 06:22.469 think I'm I'm not ready yet." you know, 06:22.469 --> 06:22.479 06:22.479 --> 06:23.749 in my head I was going to be ready at 06:23.749 --> 06:23.759 06:23.759 --> 06:25.990 some point. Once I'm once I'm ready, 06:25.990 --> 06:26.000 06:26.000 --> 06:27.189 I'll go in there. 06:27.189 --> 06:27.199 06:27.199 --> 06:29.270 >> And eventually, 06:29.270 --> 06:29.280 06:29.280 --> 06:33.110 I had to go in there. And she had um 06:33.110 --> 06:33.120 06:33.120 --> 06:36.309 >> she decided to document this experience 06:36.309 --> 06:36.319 06:36.319 --> 06:38.150 and took sort of a series of photos that 06:38.150 --> 06:38.160 06:38.160 --> 06:40.870 she had a camera on a tripod and she was 06:40.870 --> 06:40.880 06:40.880 --> 06:42.469 like, I think it I want to I want to 06:42.469 --> 06:42.479 06:42.479 --> 06:44.070 sort of like take a picture of this 06:44.070 --> 06:44.080 06:44.080 --> 06:46.469 moment so we can really I don't know. I 06:46.469 --> 06:46.479 06:46.479 --> 06:49.189 just want to capture this moment. And so 06:49.189 --> 06:49.199 06:49.199 --> 06:51.909 she convinced me and she's like, "I'll 06:51.909 --> 06:51.919 06:51.919 --> 06:53.270 be in there with you. You know, that's 06:53.270 --> 06:53.280 06:53.280 --> 06:54.950 gonna be," she's like, "It's gonna be 06:54.950 --> 06:54.960 06:54.960 --> 06:56.790 good for you." And I went in there for 06:56.790 --> 06:56.800 06:56.800 --> 06:58.629 the really kind of the first time with 06:58.629 --> 06:58.639 06:58.639 --> 07:02.950 my heart with me. And it was so hard and 07:02.950 --> 07:02.960 07:02.960 --> 07:07.350 I um definitely I would say I was split 07:07.350 --> 07:07.360 07:07.360 --> 07:11.189 open and but so there there she took a 07:11.189 --> 07:11.199 07:11.199 --> 07:12.870 series of photos. There was a series 07:12.870 --> 07:12.880 07:12.880 --> 07:15.110 there was the first photo which is a 07:15.110 --> 07:15.120 07:15.120 --> 07:16.629 camera outside of the nursery and the 07:16.629 --> 07:16.639 07:16.639 --> 07:17.909 nursery is clear. Everything else is 07:17.909 --> 07:17.919 07:17.919 --> 07:19.830 blurry. Then I let her take a picture of 07:19.830 --> 07:19.840 07:19.840 --> 07:21.749 me, but I'm outside the nursery and I'm 07:21.749 --> 07:21.759 07:21.759 --> 07:23.430 blurry and the nursery is clear. 07:23.430 --> 07:23.440 07:23.440 --> 07:25.029 >> Like, oh my gosh. And I'm looking at 07:25.029 --> 07:25.039 07:25.039 --> 07:27.909 these later. And then there's a photo of 07:27.909 --> 07:27.919 07:27.919 --> 07:32.390 me in the nursery where I'm, you know, I 07:32.390 --> 07:32.400 07:32.400 --> 07:35.589 I'm unable to contain my emotion. And 07:35.589 --> 07:35.599 07:35.599 --> 07:38.070 then there was this last photo where 07:38.070 --> 07:38.080 07:38.080 --> 07:39.589 it's all of these have been in black and 07:39.589 --> 07:39.599 07:39.599 --> 07:41.430 white. Then there's this last photo 07:41.430 --> 07:41.440 07:41.440 --> 07:43.189 where her and I are hugging and it's 07:43.189 --> 07:43.199 07:43.199 --> 07:46.710 color and we're smiling. And 07:46.710 --> 07:46.720 07:46.720 --> 07:48.629 um I remember looking at those photos 07:48.629 --> 07:48.639 07:48.639 --> 07:50.870 later and being like, "Oh my gosh, this 07:50.870 --> 07:50.880 07:50.880 --> 07:53.749 is a story. This is the story." 07:53.749 --> 07:53.759 07:53.759 --> 07:56.390 And from that moment is when it really 07:56.390 --> 07:56.400 07:56.400 --> 07:58.230 started to like in the short there are 07:58.230 --> 07:58.240 07:58.240 --> 07:59.830 those two stars that start to orbit. 07:59.830 --> 07:59.840 07:59.840 --> 08:01.670 That's when it was for me with this they 08:01.670 --> 08:01.680 08:01.680 --> 08:03.189 started to kind of start to orbit. I was 08:03.189 --> 08:03.199 08:03.199 --> 08:04.309 like, "Oh my gosh, I think there's 08:04.309 --> 08:04.319 08:04.319 --> 08:06.070 something here." and and suddenly it was 08:06.070 --> 08:06.080 08:06.080 --> 08:08.469 easy to work on it and it was easy to 08:08.469 --> 08:08.479 08:08.479 --> 08:10.070 know why this character would do this. 08:10.070 --> 08:10.080 08:10.080 --> 08:12.550 It's because of this or this and that. 08:12.550 --> 08:12.560 08:12.560 --> 08:15.670 And that was sort of the the nucleus of 08:15.670 --> 08:15.680 08:15.680 --> 08:18.309 when we started going on that. And I 08:18.309 --> 08:18.319 08:18.319 --> 08:20.869 remember at that point I I was just I'm 08:20.869 --> 08:20.879 08:20.879 --> 08:22.869 just going to start drawing stuff. I'm 08:22.869 --> 08:22.879 08:22.879 --> 08:25.189 you know I'm a visual person so I'm 08:25.189 --> 08:25.199 08:25.199 --> 08:27.110 immediately I'm like drawing moments and 08:27.110 --> 08:27.120 08:27.120 --> 08:28.869 thinking of like set pieces and making 08:28.869 --> 08:28.879 08:28.879 --> 08:31.990 boards of inspiration all of that stuff. 08:31.990 --> 08:32.000 08:32.000 --> 08:33.589 And I got to a point where it's like, 08:33.589 --> 08:33.599 08:33.599 --> 08:34.949 okay, I think this is sort of like a 08:34.949 --> 08:34.959 08:34.959 --> 08:37.110 full-blown like you could this feels 08:37.110 --> 08:37.120 08:37.120 --> 08:38.870 pitchable. 08:38.870 --> 08:38.880 08:38.880 --> 08:40.630 >> So, as I was listening to this, one of 08:40.630 --> 08:40.640 08:40.640 --> 08:43.430 my favorite parts of Malcolm's story 08:43.430 --> 08:43.440 08:43.440 --> 08:46.389 with that pivotal moment was the fact 08:46.389 --> 08:46.399 08:46.399 --> 08:48.870 that you went from black and white 08:48.870 --> 08:48.880 08:48.880 --> 08:52.470 photos into color. And talk about a 08:52.470 --> 08:52.480 08:52.480 --> 08:55.269 powerful metaphor. Uh, Versa, you you 08:55.269 --> 08:55.279 08:55.279 --> 08:57.670 see the two stars orbiting orbiting one 08:57.670 --> 08:57.680 08:57.680 --> 08:59.350 another. And if you haven't seen it yet, 08:59.350 --> 08:59.360 08:59.360 --> 09:01.110 I encourage you to hop on over to Disney 09:01.110 --> 09:01.120 09:01.120 --> 09:03.269 Plus and watch it. It's a fantastic 09:03.269 --> 09:03.279 09:03.279 --> 09:04.870 short. All of the short circuit uh 09:04.870 --> 09:04.880 09:04.880 --> 09:07.430 shorts really are, but this one really I 09:07.430 --> 09:07.440 09:07.440 --> 09:08.550 don't know, there's something very 09:08.550 --> 09:08.560 09:08.560 --> 09:11.269 special about it. And and there's this 09:11.269 --> 09:11.279 09:11.279 --> 09:15.269 moment of of reflection and connection 09:15.269 --> 09:15.279 09:15.279 --> 09:18.550 that happens. And it it it 09:18.550 --> 09:18.560 09:18.560 --> 09:20.550 reminds us that even when we feel 09:20.550 --> 09:20.560 09:20.560 --> 09:23.509 completely split apart and broken, uh 09:23.509 --> 09:23.519 09:23.519 --> 09:26.070 there is that path back to the light as 09:26.070 --> 09:26.080 09:26.080 --> 09:29.670 Malcolm put it. And that's such an 09:29.670 --> 09:29.680 09:29.680 --> 09:31.829 incredible moment in his own personal 09:31.829 --> 09:31.839 09:31.839 --> 09:34.150 story that he then was able to translate 09:34.150 --> 09:34.160 09:34.160 --> 09:36.550 it into animation in a really beautiful 09:36.550 --> 09:36.560 09:36.560 --> 09:39.030 way. And 09:39.030 --> 09:39.040 09:39.040 --> 09:42.389 it really as as I was sitting there and 09:42.389 --> 09:42.399 09:42.399 --> 09:44.310 listening to this man talk and looking 09:44.310 --> 09:44.320 09:44.320 --> 09:49.190 in his eyes, um I couldn't imagine 09:49.190 --> 09:49.200 09:49.200 --> 09:54.230 the pain of where he was and taking that 09:54.230 --> 09:54.240 09:54.240 --> 09:56.949 pain and turning it into something that 09:56.949 --> 09:56.959 09:56.959 --> 10:00.070 isn't just a work of art and a thing of 10:00.070 --> 10:00.080 10:00.080 --> 10:01.829 beauty, 10:01.829 --> 10:01.839 10:01.839 --> 10:04.310 but also something that can kind of 10:04.310 --> 10:04.320 10:04.320 --> 10:06.470 connect with other people and help other 10:06.470 --> 10:06.480 10:06.480 --> 10:08.949 people that maybe he's never met before 10:08.949 --> 10:08.959 10:08.959 --> 10:11.910 or never will meet, but he was able to 10:11.910 --> 10:11.920 10:11.920 --> 10:14.550 put that pain into something positive. 10:14.550 --> 10:14.560 10:14.560 --> 10:16.630 And that's something that I think is is 10:16.630 --> 10:16.640 10:16.640 --> 10:19.910 something that we often overlook. We 10:19.910 --> 10:19.920 10:19.920 --> 10:21.670 often try to hide our pain or we often 10:21.670 --> 10:21.680 10:21.680 --> 10:26.230 try to uh skirt around it or focus on on 10:26.230 --> 10:26.240 10:26.240 --> 10:28.230 oh well this is good and this is makes 10:28.230 --> 10:28.240 10:28.240 --> 10:30.389 me happy and this is the positive and 10:30.389 --> 10:30.399 10:30.399 --> 10:32.389 there is a place for that. But the there 10:32.389 --> 10:32.399 10:32.399 --> 10:33.990 is 10:33.990 --> 10:34.000 10:34.000 --> 10:36.470 there's something different between 10:36.470 --> 10:36.480 10:36.480 --> 10:38.949 turning pain into positivity and that's 10:38.949 --> 10:38.959 10:38.959 --> 10:42.550 something that's growth versus just, you 10:42.550 --> 10:42.560 10:42.560 --> 10:45.509 know, hiding it under the carpet. And 10:45.509 --> 10:45.519 10:45.519 --> 10:48.150 and I think that's something that he 10:48.150 --> 10:48.160 10:48.160 --> 10:50.230 tells in his story and he demonstrates 10:50.230 --> 10:50.240 10:50.240 --> 10:53.670 in his story that beyond just being a 10:53.670 --> 10:53.680 10:53.680 --> 10:56.150 beautiful thing to look at, it's really 10:56.150 --> 10:56.160 10:56.160 --> 10:58.949 a wonderful template for how to deal 10:58.949 --> 10:58.959 10:58.959 --> 11:01.430 with pain, specifically his type of 11:01.430 --> 11:01.440 11:01.440 --> 11:03.269 pain, but I think other types of pain 11:03.269 --> 11:03.279 11:03.279 --> 11:06.550 too is is that facing it and really 11:06.550 --> 11:06.560 11:06.560 --> 11:09.750 embracing it and coming to grips with it 11:09.750 --> 11:09.760 11:09.760 --> 11:12.310 and turning it into something new and 11:12.310 --> 11:12.320 11:12.320 --> 11:15.030 beautiful that doesn't hide the past 11:15.030 --> 11:15.040 11:15.040 --> 11:17.990 pain, but instead makes it a part of 11:17.990 --> 11:18.000 11:18.000 --> 11:22.069 that portrait. And as I listened to 11:22.069 --> 11:22.079 11:22.079 --> 11:25.829 Malcolm talk, I literally sat there with 11:25.829 --> 11:25.839 11:25.839 --> 11:29.750 with my mind being blown 11:29.750 --> 11:29.760 11:29.760 --> 11:32.310 at the most painful thing I could 11:32.310 --> 11:32.320 11:32.320 --> 11:35.750 imagine becoming this incredible work of 11:35.750 --> 11:35.760 11:35.760 --> 11:38.550 art. And 11:38.550 --> 11:38.560 11:38.560 --> 11:42.069 what was even more amazing to me was the 11:42.069 --> 11:42.079 11:42.079 --> 11:44.550 fact that the Disney studio really 11:44.550 --> 11:44.560 11:44.560 --> 11:47.030 embraced this story and supported his 11:47.030 --> 11:47.040 11:47.040 --> 11:50.790 vision. I this this went from the top to 11:50.790 --> 11:50.800 11:50.800 --> 11:52.870 the bottom. like you you heard this time 11:52.870 --> 11:52.880 11:52.880 --> 11:54.389 and time again through a couple of 11:54.389 --> 11:54.399 11:54.399 --> 11:55.829 different interviews actually with 11:55.829 --> 11:55.839 11:55.839 --> 11:58.069 different filmmakers for Short Circuit, 11:58.069 --> 11:58.079 11:58.079 --> 11:59.670 but 11:59.670 --> 11:59.680 11:59.680 --> 12:01.269 uh Malcolin talked about going to 12:01.269 --> 12:01.279 12:01.279 --> 12:04.710 Jennifer Lee and 12:04.710 --> 12:04.720 12:04.720 --> 12:08.550 her literally coming in and helping, you 12:08.550 --> 12:08.560 12:08.560 --> 12:11.269 know, hone that story and and really 12:11.269 --> 12:11.279 12:11.279 --> 12:13.350 dial it in to make it the best of the 12:13.350 --> 12:13.360 12:13.360 --> 12:15.350 best. and he talked about his team in 12:15.350 --> 12:15.360 12:15.360 --> 12:19.430 Vancouver helping and and he he really 12:19.430 --> 12:19.440 12:19.440 --> 12:21.509 painted another picture, you could say, 12:21.509 --> 12:21.519 12:21.519 --> 12:24.389 of how this wasn't just about being a 12:24.389 --> 12:24.399 12:24.399 --> 12:26.870 corporate project that oh uh you got 12:26.870 --> 12:26.880 12:26.880 --> 12:29.190 your your short circuit approved. So now 12:29.190 --> 12:29.200 12:29.200 --> 12:30.470 this this and this is going to happen 12:30.470 --> 12:30.480 12:30.480 --> 12:32.150 and you're going to make this this short 12:32.150 --> 12:32.160 12:32.160 --> 12:34.550 and it's going to go on Disney Plus. But 12:34.550 --> 12:34.560 12:34.560 --> 12:36.949 really it became a community passion 12:36.949 --> 12:36.959 12:36.959 --> 12:41.190 project and everybody came together and 12:41.190 --> 12:41.200 12:41.200 --> 12:44.150 you Melin can share it better. 12:44.150 --> 12:44.160 12:44.160 --> 12:47.269 >> And so Jennifer Lee was our creative 12:47.269 --> 12:47.279 12:47.279 --> 12:49.750 officer at the time and I had developed 12:49.750 --> 12:49.760 12:49.760 --> 12:51.829 a great relationship with her on Frozen. 12:51.829 --> 12:51.839 12:51.839 --> 12:54.790 I was a supervisor of Frozen. So I she 12:54.790 --> 12:54.800 12:54.800 --> 12:56.550 was my first person I reached out to and 12:56.550 --> 12:56.560 12:56.560 --> 12:59.110 I was saying hey I I'm working on this 12:59.110 --> 12:59.120 12:59.120 --> 13:01.430 idea. You know I always love how she 13:01.430 --> 13:01.440 13:01.440 --> 13:03.110 thought about characters. I I think of 13:03.110 --> 13:03.120 13:03.120 --> 13:05.030 her as a very emotional writer and in 13:05.030 --> 13:05.040 13:05.040 --> 13:06.710 the best way. She's always thinking 13:06.710 --> 13:06.720 13:06.720 --> 13:08.949 deeply about the characters, where 13:08.949 --> 13:08.959 13:08.959 --> 13:10.949 they're at and what they're feeling and 13:10.949 --> 13:10.959 13:10.959 --> 13:13.430 thinking. I said, "Let me get her take 13:13.430 --> 13:13.440 13:13.440 --> 13:15.990 on this." And she was so supportive. And 13:15.990 --> 13:16.000 13:16.000 --> 13:20.310 we sat in the ABC casting room, the 13:20.310 --> 13:20.320 13:20.320 --> 13:23.350 little hallway. Uh, and we sat there for 13:23.350 --> 13:23.360 13:23.360 --> 13:24.389 like an hour 13:24.389 --> 13:24.399 13:24.399 --> 13:26.470 >> and I she was just like, "Think about 13:26.470 --> 13:26.480 13:26.480 --> 13:28.550 this. I think you you should think about 13:28.550 --> 13:28.560 13:28.560 --> 13:30.150 like what these characters whose point 13:30.150 --> 13:30.160 13:30.160 --> 13:31.190 of view is they going to be from and 13:31.190 --> 13:31.200 13:31.200 --> 13:33.829 this and that. And so we would just I 13:33.829 --> 13:33.839 13:33.839 --> 13:35.190 would just check in with her every 13:35.190 --> 13:35.200 13:35.200 --> 13:36.949 couple months like, "Okay, you know, I 13:36.949 --> 13:36.959 13:36.959 --> 13:38.150 was thinking about that. There's my 13:38.150 --> 13:38.160 13:38.160 --> 13:41.509 update." And we just did that, you know, 13:41.509 --> 13:41.519 13:41.519 --> 13:43.350 there I feel like sometimes you assume 13:43.350 --> 13:43.360 13:43.360 --> 13:44.550 there's this moment where it's like, 13:44.550 --> 13:44.560 13:44.560 --> 13:46.389 "All right, we're going to we're going 13:46.389 --> 13:46.399 13:46.399 --> 13:48.150 to take pitches and then you can come in 13:48.150 --> 13:48.160 13:48.160 --> 13:49.910 and you're going to get a green light on 13:49.910 --> 13:49.920 13:49.920 --> 13:51.430 your project and you can start doing 13:51.430 --> 13:51.440 13:51.440 --> 13:52.949 it." But I think a lot of our projects 13:52.949 --> 13:52.959 13:52.959 --> 13:54.870 here, people are just sort of working on 13:54.870 --> 13:54.880 13:54.880 --> 13:56.550 these things and they just kind of 13:56.550 --> 13:56.560 13:56.560 --> 13:59.350 eventually find opportunity. 13:59.350 --> 13:59.360 13:59.360 --> 14:02.470 >> Yeah. And that was um that was my 14:02.470 --> 14:02.480 14:02.480 --> 14:05.110 experience on how getting it going. But 14:05.110 --> 14:05.120 14:05.120 --> 14:06.629 then all the way through production, 14:06.629 --> 14:06.639 14:06.639 --> 14:08.069 every time I shared it would get a 14:08.069 --> 14:08.079 14:08.079 --> 14:09.430 little bit easier than talk about, a 14:09.430 --> 14:09.440 14:09.440 --> 14:12.550 little bit easier to share. And really 14:12.550 --> 14:12.560 14:12.560 --> 14:14.949 in the beginning it was like me feeling 14:14.949 --> 14:14.959 14:14.959 --> 14:16.470 like I was kind of stepping out there. 14:16.470 --> 14:16.480 14:16.480 --> 14:19.189 And then it started to change where 14:19.189 --> 14:19.199 14:19.199 --> 14:21.590 folks were actually coming to me with 14:21.590 --> 14:21.600 14:21.600 --> 14:23.509 experiences. Hey, 14:23.509 --> 14:23.519 14:23.519 --> 14:25.350 >> you know, hey, thanks for 14:25.350 --> 14:25.360 14:25.360 --> 14:27.030 >> sharing that. I actually 14:27.030 --> 14:27.040 14:27.040 --> 14:29.430 >> I lost my son you know it's like oh my 14:29.430 --> 14:29.440 14:29.440 --> 14:30.710 gosh you know 14:30.710 --> 14:30.720 14:30.720 --> 14:34.069 >> I had no idea so it started to actually 14:34.069 --> 14:34.079 14:34.079 --> 14:36.870 >> build this community and that's it's and 14:36.870 --> 14:36.880 14:36.880 --> 14:38.949 that was really a turning point for me 14:38.949 --> 14:38.959 14:38.959 --> 14:40.310 in the production of it where it's like 14:40.310 --> 14:40.320 14:40.320 --> 14:42.550 oh my gosh this is 14:42.550 --> 14:42.560 14:42.560 --> 14:44.470 allowing folks to come forward you know 14:44.470 --> 14:44.480 14:44.480 --> 14:47.350 and be and feel like they have shared 14:47.350 --> 14:47.360 14:47.360 --> 14:48.790 experience which is absolutely 14:48.790 --> 14:48.800 14:48.800 --> 14:50.230 >> powerful 14:50.230 --> 14:50.240 14:50.240 --> 14:52.310 >> and what I think I take away from this 14:52.310 --> 14:52.320 14:52.320 --> 14:55.670 is this is really what Disney community 14:55.670 --> 14:55.680 14:55.680 --> 15:00.069 is all about. It's it's turning that 15:00.069 --> 15:00.079 15:00.079 --> 15:03.509 that pain, taking that personal leap of 15:03.509 --> 15:03.519 15:03.519 --> 15:06.069 faith and and creating a shared 15:06.069 --> 15:06.079 15:06.079 --> 15:07.670 experience 15:07.670 --> 15:07.680 15:07.680 --> 15:09.990 that doesn't just help me heal, but it 15:09.990 --> 15:10.000 15:10.000 --> 15:13.509 helps other people heal. And if you've 15:13.509 --> 15:13.519 15:13.519 --> 15:15.910 talked to me at length in parks or or 15:15.910 --> 15:15.920 15:15.920 --> 15:18.389 you know at coffee or something, um I've 15:18.389 --> 15:18.399 15:18.399 --> 15:21.189 probably shared about my mom having a 15:21.189 --> 15:21.199 15:21.199 --> 15:23.829 stroke almost I think 20 years ago now. 15:23.829 --> 15:23.839 15:23.839 --> 15:26.150 And and I remember after she had her 15:26.150 --> 15:26.160 15:26.160 --> 15:27.750 stroke and and after everything 15:27.750 --> 15:27.760 15:27.760 --> 15:29.509 happened, 15:29.509 --> 15:29.519 15:29.519 --> 15:31.670 um I went to Disneyland. I had a lot of 15:31.670 --> 15:31.680 15:31.680 --> 15:33.750 friends that worked there and still do. 15:33.750 --> 15:33.760 15:33.760 --> 15:36.870 And I remember talking with people at 15:36.870 --> 15:36.880 15:36.880 --> 15:39.110 Disneyland and many of them had already 15:39.110 --> 15:39.120 15:39.120 --> 15:42.470 reached out and and it's everything's 15:42.470 --> 15:42.480 15:42.480 --> 15:44.389 kind of a blur after something like that 15:44.389 --> 15:44.399 15:44.399 --> 15:45.990 happens. You don't know what to think. 15:45.990 --> 15:46.000 15:46.000 --> 15:47.990 You don't know what to do. You just are 15:47.990 --> 15:48.000 15:48.000 --> 15:49.829 trying to make it from one day to the 15:49.829 --> 15:49.839 15:49.839 --> 15:53.110 next. And I remember as as I was talking 15:53.110 --> 15:53.120 15:53.120 --> 15:55.189 to people at Disneyland and riding the 15:55.189 --> 15:55.199 15:55.199 --> 15:57.030 train and going to the watch shop or 15:57.030 --> 15:57.040 15:57.040 --> 15:59.910 whatever else it was, I remember walking 15:59.910 --> 15:59.920 15:59.920 --> 16:02.629 away feeling a little bit better because 16:02.629 --> 16:02.639 16:02.639 --> 16:04.949 these people just acted like a 16:04.949 --> 16:04.959 16:04.959 --> 16:09.509 metaphorical warm hug. There was no um 16:09.509 --> 16:09.519 16:09.519 --> 16:11.350 there was no like oh this will fix it. 16:11.350 --> 16:11.360 16:11.360 --> 16:13.430 There was no oh you need to do this. 16:13.430 --> 16:13.440 16:13.440 --> 16:15.829 There was no you should do that or 16:15.829 --> 16:15.839 16:15.839 --> 16:18.790 guidance or or platitudes or whatever. 16:18.790 --> 16:18.800 16:18.800 --> 16:21.990 It was all just people really meeting me 16:21.990 --> 16:22.000 16:22.000 --> 16:26.629 where I was at and and 16:26.629 --> 16:26.639 16:26.639 --> 16:29.110 really just connecting and and that 16:29.110 --> 16:29.120 16:29.120 --> 16:31.189 community moment is I think one of the 16:31.189 --> 16:31.199 16:31.199 --> 16:33.829 best ones I can think of um through my 16:33.829 --> 16:33.839 16:33.839 --> 16:35.749 years covering Disney and going to 16:35.749 --> 16:35.759 16:35.759 --> 16:38.230 Disney and and I remember just feeling 16:38.230 --> 16:38.240 16:38.240 --> 16:40.069 as I drove home that night and I lived 16:40.069 --> 16:40.079 16:40.079 --> 16:41.590 100 miles away at the time so I had lots 16:41.590 --> 16:41.600 16:41.600 --> 16:43.829 of time to think but I remember at the 16:43.829 --> 16:43.839 16:43.839 --> 16:47.030 time thinking, "Oh, this is what it's 16:47.030 --> 16:47.040 16:47.040 --> 16:48.470 supposed to 16:48.470 --> 16:48.480 16:48.480 --> 16:50.550 these people are just walking alongside 16:50.550 --> 16:50.560 16:50.560 --> 16:52.470 of me. And I don't remember specifically 16:52.470 --> 16:52.480 16:52.480 --> 16:55.670 anything anybody said. But I do remember 16:55.670 --> 16:55.680 16:55.680 --> 16:57.749 feeling afterwards that we were all in 16:57.749 --> 16:57.759 16:57.759 --> 17:00.710 this together and that I wasn't alone 17:00.710 --> 17:00.720 17:00.720 --> 17:02.629 and they were walking with me, whatever 17:02.629 --> 17:02.639 17:02.639 --> 17:04.949 that was going to be. And whatever ended 17:04.949 --> 17:04.959 17:04.959 --> 17:06.630 up happening, 17:06.630 --> 17:06.640 17:06.640 --> 17:08.309 whether it was okay or whether it 17:08.309 --> 17:08.319 17:08.319 --> 17:11.029 wasn't, they would be there. And that's 17:11.029 --> 17:11.039 17:11.039 --> 17:12.870 really what I think support and 17:12.870 --> 17:12.880 17:12.880 --> 17:15.429 community is all about. And and I think 17:15.429 --> 17:15.439 17:15.439 --> 17:17.990 that's what Malcolin was experiencing as 17:17.990 --> 17:18.000 17:18.000 --> 17:19.909 he was going through this process of 17:19.909 --> 17:19.919 17:19.919 --> 17:23.510 turning this this horrible moment into 17:23.510 --> 17:23.520 17:23.520 --> 17:25.990 something that's absolutely stunningly 17:25.990 --> 17:26.000 17:26.000 --> 17:29.430 beautiful. And the only reason this 17:29.430 --> 17:29.440 17:29.440 --> 17:31.110 works 17:31.110 --> 17:31.120 17:31.120 --> 17:33.990 is because it's true. It's honest. It's 17:33.990 --> 17:34.000 17:34.000 --> 17:36.230 vulnerable. And and that's something I 17:36.230 --> 17:36.240 17:36.240 --> 17:38.390 wanted to thank. You know, if Malcolin 17:38.390 --> 17:38.400 17:38.400 --> 17:40.310 ends up watching this, which would be 17:40.310 --> 17:40.320 17:40.320 --> 17:42.310 amazing. Um, you know, I have to thank 17:42.310 --> 17:42.320 17:42.320 --> 17:45.990 Malcolm for that because so often it's 17:45.990 --> 17:46.000 17:46.000 --> 17:47.830 all about the glitz. It's all about the 17:47.830 --> 17:47.840 17:47.840 --> 17:49.990 glamour, you know, shiny objects or 17:49.990 --> 17:50.000 17:50.000 --> 17:52.789 whatever it is. And 17:52.789 --> 17:52.799 17:52.799 --> 17:54.549 instead, 17:54.549 --> 17:54.559 17:54.559 --> 17:57.830 in this case, we have Versa. And and it 17:57.830 --> 17:57.840 17:57.840 --> 18:00.310 reminds us that art 18:00.310 --> 18:00.320 18:00.320 --> 18:02.870 can be a tool for healing. It reminds us 18:02.870 --> 18:02.880 18:02.880 --> 18:05.830 that it can be something it connects. 18:05.830 --> 18:05.840 18:05.840 --> 18:07.990 And and I loved that throughout the 18:07.990 --> 18:08.000 18:08.000 --> 18:10.310 entire process, you know, nobody at 18:10.310 --> 18:10.320 18:10.320 --> 18:12.789 Disney ever told Malcolm, "Hey, let's 18:12.789 --> 18:12.799 18:12.799 --> 18:15.350 change this. You know, this might be a 18:15.350 --> 18:15.360 18:15.360 --> 18:17.510 little bit too tough. This might be, you 18:17.510 --> 18:17.520 18:17.520 --> 18:20.870 know, too whatever for for Disney." The 18:20.870 --> 18:20.880 18:20.880 --> 18:23.430 only thing he was ever told was just 18:23.430 --> 18:23.440 18:23.440 --> 18:26.310 make it the best version of itself that 18:26.310 --> 18:26.320 18:26.320 --> 18:27.990 it can be. You know, make it that best 18:27.990 --> 18:28.000 18:28.000 --> 18:30.789 story, make it the best short. And and I 18:30.789 --> 18:30.799 18:30.799 --> 18:33.669 think that's such a powerful testament 18:33.669 --> 18:33.679 18:33.679 --> 18:36.070 to the storytelling of Disney because 18:36.070 --> 18:36.080 18:36.080 --> 18:39.750 they weren't asking for it to be to be 18:39.750 --> 18:39.760 18:39.760 --> 18:41.750 varnished or changed or whatever so that 18:41.750 --> 18:41.760 18:41.760 --> 18:44.789 it would be, you know, easier to market. 18:44.789 --> 18:44.799 18:44.799 --> 18:47.510 Instead, they said, you know, make the 18:47.510 --> 18:47.520 18:47.520 --> 18:49.990 best short that you can make with the 18:49.990 --> 18:50.000 18:50.000 --> 18:53.830 the story that you have. And 18:53.830 --> 18:53.840 18:53.840 --> 18:56.710 I think it's a great reminder that that 18:56.710 --> 18:56.720 18:56.720 --> 19:00.230 we all need to take with us is one, we 19:00.230 --> 19:00.240 19:00.240 --> 19:01.830 should be encouraging our friends to do 19:01.830 --> 19:01.840 19:01.840 --> 19:03.990 that. You know, be the best you. If 19:03.990 --> 19:04.000 19:04.000 --> 19:05.830 you're doing this project, do the best 19:05.830 --> 19:05.840 19:05.840 --> 19:07.909 you can. Does that mean it's perfect? 19:07.909 --> 19:07.919 19:07.919 --> 19:12.390 No. You know, I I think so often there's 19:12.390 --> 19:12.400 19:12.400 --> 19:18.310 a a miss that comes when we we work our 19:18.310 --> 19:18.320 19:18.320 --> 19:21.510 best and we don't get the best outcome 19:21.510 --> 19:21.520 19:21.520 --> 19:24.230 that we'd hoped for and we just never 19:24.230 --> 19:24.240 19:24.240 --> 19:26.390 know what today's best is going to lead 19:26.390 --> 19:26.400 19:26.400 --> 19:28.870 to tomorrow. And and so I think there's 19:28.870 --> 19:28.880 19:28.880 --> 19:31.510 something to be said for do your very 19:31.510 --> 19:31.520 19:31.520 --> 19:34.070 best. You can't control the outcome 19:34.070 --> 19:34.080 19:34.080 --> 19:37.270 always. That's okay. What you do want to 19:37.270 --> 19:37.280 19:37.280 --> 19:40.150 do is really have that community around 19:40.150 --> 19:40.160 19:40.160 --> 19:43.669 you and and have those people around you 19:43.669 --> 19:43.679 19:43.679 --> 19:44.950 that are going to help you find that 19:44.950 --> 19:44.960 19:44.960 --> 19:46.710 color again. So you're not living in a 19:46.710 --> 19:46.720 19:46.720 --> 19:48.870 black and white world and you're you're 19:48.870 --> 19:48.880 19:48.880 --> 19:51.430 really blossoming as opposed to, you 19:51.430 --> 19:51.440 19:51.440 --> 19:53.990 know, being stagnant and stuck. And and 19:53.990 --> 19:54.000 19:54.000 --> 19:55.590 I think that's that's an important thing 19:55.590 --> 19:55.600 19:55.600 --> 19:57.990 to be thinking about as as Disney fans, 19:57.990 --> 19:58.000 19:58.000 --> 20:00.789 as people of the world, uh people of the 20:00.789 --> 20:00.799 20:00.799 --> 20:04.470 universe in in terms of versa. But 20:04.470 --> 20:04.480 20:04.480 --> 20:07.270 there's such a lovely lesson here of the 20:07.270 --> 20:07.280 20:07.280 --> 20:09.909 importance of community and connection 20:09.909 --> 20:09.919 20:09.919 --> 20:11.750 and and I think it's something that I'm 20:11.750 --> 20:11.760 20:11.760 --> 20:14.150 very thankful for when I look at the 20:14.150 --> 20:14.160 20:14.160 --> 20:16.150 community around me and I I hope that 20:16.150 --> 20:16.160 20:16.160 --> 20:18.789 you can be thankful for that, too. And 20:18.789 --> 20:18.799 20:18.799 --> 20:20.310 you know, if you don't have that 20:20.310 --> 20:20.320 20:20.320 --> 20:22.310 community, 20:22.310 --> 20:22.320 20:22.320 --> 20:24.870 it's there somewhere. You know, I I 20:24.870 --> 20:24.880 20:24.880 --> 20:26.870 encourage you to help to find it. And 20:26.870 --> 20:26.880 20:26.880 --> 20:28.470 maybe it's not the community you want 20:28.470 --> 20:28.480 20:28.480 --> 20:30.710 today, but that doesn't mean it's the 20:30.710 --> 20:30.720 20:30.720 --> 20:33.029 community that you have tomorrow. And so 20:33.029 --> 20:33.039 20:33.039 --> 20:34.870 often the choices that we make today 20:34.870 --> 20:34.880 20:34.880 --> 20:36.549 determine the reality that we live 20:36.549 --> 20:36.559 20:36.559 --> 20:38.630 tomorrow. And and if you don't have that 20:38.630 --> 20:38.640 20:38.640 --> 20:40.470 positive community, I invite you to be a 20:40.470 --> 20:40.480 20:40.480 --> 20:44.710 part of ours. And let's build something 20:44.710 --> 20:44.720 20:44.720 --> 20:47.669 that that does exactly what Versa does. 20:47.669 --> 20:47.679 20:47.679 --> 20:50.149 It turns hurt into healing. You know, it 20:50.149 --> 20:50.159 20:50.159 --> 20:53.990 t turns that pain into something that's 20:53.990 --> 20:54.000 20:54.000 --> 20:57.510 positive. And it doesn't do it in a way 20:57.510 --> 20:57.520 20:57.520 --> 20:59.510 that sugarcoats it. It doesn't do it in 20:59.510 --> 20:59.520 20:59.520 --> 21:03.909 a way that's contrived or or fake. It 21:03.909 --> 21:03.919 21:03.919 --> 21:06.149 does it in a very real way, in a very 21:06.149 --> 21:06.159 21:06.159 --> 21:08.950 honest way, in a very, you know, 21:08.950 --> 21:08.960 21:08.960 --> 21:10.789 vulnerable way. And I I'm really 21:10.789 --> 21:10.799 21:10.799 --> 21:13.590 thankful that Disney was willing to take 21:13.590 --> 21:13.600 21:13.600 --> 21:17.350 that chance to tell this story and to 21:17.350 --> 21:17.360 21:17.360 --> 21:20.470 let Malcolin, you know, really tell the 21:20.470 --> 21:20.480 21:20.480 --> 21:22.310 story that he lived. It's the truth that 21:22.310 --> 21:22.320 21:22.320 --> 21:26.149 he lived. But um I just think I've been 21:26.149 --> 21:26.159 21:26.159 --> 21:27.750 carrying this with me for a few like a 21:27.750 --> 21:27.760 21:27.760 --> 21:29.190 month now, I think. And and it's 21:29.190 --> 21:29.200 21:29.200 --> 21:31.590 something that I just think we can't hit 21:31.590 --> 21:31.600 21:31.600 --> 21:34.710 on enough because there's enough pain 21:34.710 --> 21:34.720 21:34.720 --> 21:37.110 and suffering and I'm sounding like Yoda 21:37.110 --> 21:37.120 21:37.120 --> 21:39.190 now. Um, but there's enough things going 21:39.190 --> 21:39.200 21:39.200 --> 21:40.789 on in the world that are really 21:40.789 --> 21:40.799 21:40.799 --> 21:43.270 difficult that I do think we need to 21:43.270 --> 21:43.280 21:43.280 --> 21:45.830 look into the beauty of art, into the 21:45.830 --> 21:45.840 21:45.840 --> 21:49.990 lessons of art, and really build 21:49.990 --> 21:50.000 21:50.000 --> 21:53.029 ourselves up, build each other up, and 21:53.029 --> 21:53.039 21:53.039 --> 21:55.510 and really make the world a better 21:55.510 --> 21:55.520 21:55.520 --> 21:57.590 place. One conversation at a time, one 21:57.590 --> 21:57.600 21:57.600 --> 21:59.830 animated short at a time, one blog at a 21:59.830 --> 21:59.840 21:59.840 --> 22:02.230 time, you know, one photo at a time. We 22:02.230 --> 22:02.240 22:02.240 --> 22:03.590 can do that. And I think that's 22:03.590 --> 22:03.600 22:03.600 --> 22:05.990 something that Versa is such a wonderful 22:05.990 --> 22:06.000 22:06.000 --> 22:08.310 reminder of. 22:08.310 --> 22:08.320 22:08.320 --> 22:09.990 I hope you've enjoyed this episode of 22:09.990 --> 22:10.000 22:10.000 --> 22:11.750 Daps Magic Disney and positive stuff. 22:11.750 --> 22:11.760 22:11.760 --> 22:12.950 It's a little bit different than I 22:12.950 --> 22:12.960 22:12.960 --> 22:15.029 normally do, but I I like to dabble in 22:15.029 --> 22:15.039 22:15.039 --> 22:17.029 things and try things. So, let me know 22:17.029 --> 22:17.039 22:17.039 --> 22:19.110 if it if you think it worked. If it 22:19.110 --> 22:19.120 22:19.120 --> 22:20.549 didn't work, you can tell me that, too. 22:20.549 --> 22:20.559 22:20.559 --> 22:22.789 Just be nice and um we won't do it 22:22.789 --> 22:22.799 22:22.799 --> 22:25.830 again. But, uh if you do like it, I do 22:25.830 --> 22:25.840 22:25.840 --> 22:27.990 have other interviews that are coming up 22:27.990 --> 22:28.000 22:28.000 --> 22:30.789 and that I currently have that uh if you 22:30.789 --> 22:30.799 22:30.799 --> 22:32.549 like this format, we will try it again 22:32.549 --> 22:32.559 22:32.559 --> 22:35.270 and see what happens with that. But I 22:35.270 --> 22:35.280 22:35.280 --> 22:36.630 hope you're having an absolutely 22:36.630 --> 22:36.640 22:36.640 --> 22:39.190 fantastic time. If you would like more 22:39.190 --> 22:39.200 22:39.200 --> 22:41.190 of this Disney and positive stuff, head 22:41.190 --> 22:41.200 22:41.200 --> 22:44.070 on over to dapsmagic.com. We'd love to 22:44.070 --> 22:44.080 22:44.080 --> 22:45.990 geek out about all of this stuff with 22:45.990 --> 22:46.000 22:46.000 --> 22:47.830 you. If you want even more community, 22:47.830 --> 22:47.840 22:47.840 --> 22:49.669 head over to dapshq. You can do that at 22:49.669 --> 22:49.679 22:49.679 --> 22:52.149 dapshq.com or click on the link on the 22:52.149 --> 22:52.159 22:52.159 --> 22:54.310 homepage of DAPSMagic. And that's really 22:54.310 --> 22:54.320 22:54.320 --> 22:55.830 where where you get the behindthe-scenes 22:55.830 --> 22:55.840 22:55.840 --> 22:58.310 stuff and connect with us directly. And 22:58.310 --> 22:58.320 22:58.320 --> 23:00.630 that's a whole lot of fun. We also have 23:00.630 --> 23:00.640 23:00.640 --> 23:02.070 Tuesday night's Geeks Corner where you 23:02.070 --> 23:02.080 23:02.080 --> 23:04.470 can connect with us live as we geek out 23:04.470 --> 23:04.480 23:04.480 --> 23:06.230 about Disney and positive stuff. Always 23:06.230 --> 23:06.240 23:06.240 --> 23:08.390 a lot of fun as well. And there's an 23:08.390 --> 23:08.400 23:08.400 --> 23:10.630 after show on Daps HQ for that as well. 23:10.630 --> 23:10.640 23:10.640 --> 23:11.990 That's a lot of fun that you won't want 23:11.990 --> 23:12.000 23:12.000 --> 23:13.350 to miss. Apparently, a lot of things are 23:13.350 --> 23:13.360 23:13.360 --> 23:15.270 a lot of fun. So, I won't repeat that 23:15.270 --> 23:15.280 23:15.280 --> 23:17.590 one more time. Anyway, I hope you're 23:17.590 --> 23:17.600 23:17.600 --> 23:20.390 having a fantastic day. Make it a great 23:20.390 --> 23:20.400 23:20.400 --> 23:26.120 week. Stay positive. Keep kind.